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21. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 10:12:49 -0400
You're missing a time constant there. 2.5 mph per revoution per ???? A single revolution or a single pulse has a measurement uncertainty of +/- 12.5 % with 8 ppr. So if you're going to measure veloc
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00594.html (24,595 bytes)

22. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 10:19:15 -0400
There's hot wire anemometers which can have very fast response times (milliseconds or less), but which require a bit more calibration, and are sensitive to ambient temperature. This, for those that d
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00595.html (9,953 bytes)

23. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 09:35:46 -0700
Sorry, the calibration factor is 2.5 mph per revolution per second. I got sloppy when I typed that, although I would have thought that was almost intuitively obvious. But your +/- 12.5% assertion is
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00600.html (21,769 bytes)

24. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:39:43 -0400
I don't think it's misleading, but you'd have to look at my prior post. If you're going for a "fast" measurement technique, you can measure the time between two pulses. If you do that, the absolute p
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00603.html (29,155 bytes)

25. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 23:57:53 -0700
That's all true, but that doesn't mean it is at all relevant. At 25 mph, that anemometer with eight points of resolution per revolution has all of 12.5 milliseconds between pulses. Unless you're tryi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00609.html (24,525 bytes)

26. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Kim Elmore <cw_de_n5op@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:58:19 -0500
Al is exactly correct in his assessment. Meteorologists (like me) worry about this stuff all the time. If we want to measure the turbulence spectrum down to the eddy dissipation rate, we need extreme
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00613.html (32,629 bytes)

27. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 10:36:09 -0700
No ... Al is not correct in his assessment, at least not at a practical level. The 12.5% "inaccuracy" he claims is purely arbitrary ... it's a 12.5% inaccuracy for one revolution, which is meaningles
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00627.html (25,809 bytes)

28. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:08:24 -0400
I'm not going to belabor the point. Wind speed is derived by measuring the change in rotational position divided by time. The shorter the sampling interval (time), the lower the measurement accuracy.
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00631.html (36,993 bytes)

29. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:37:17 -0700
I also think Al's math is incorrect. My frequency counters measure intervals to nanoseconds, better ones can to picosecond resolution, these are standard features on better frequency counters. So one
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00632.html (29,281 bytes)

30. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:59:05 -0700
not true. Consider a frequency counter in your shack. You can have a particular gate time and count positive zero crossings during that gate. For this simple scheme, yes, short measurement gate mean
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00633.html (12,097 bytes)

31. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Al Kozakiewicz <akozak@hourglass.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:08:59 -0400
This is the key thing that misses the entire point. It's not the accuracy of the time measurement that's the issue. It is the uncertainty of when position transitions are crossed. With either electr
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00636.html (11,127 bytes)

32. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 22:24:47 -0700
This is the key thing that misses the entire point. It's not the accuracy of the time measurement that's the issue. It is the uncertainty of when position transitions are crossed. With either electro
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00637.html (11,619 bytes)

33. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 00:10:52 -0700
Sigh. That initial degree of uncertainty only exists for 12. 5 milliseconds at 25 mph (80 pulses per second). How is that even the least bit relevant here?? No way a tower or its antennas respond mec
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00638.html (12,972 bytes)

34. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 01:34:13 -0400
On 4/29/2014 9:59 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/29/14, 5:08 PM, Al Kozakiewicz wrote: I'm not going to belabor the point. Wind speed is derived by measuring the change in rotational position divided by tim
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00642.html (11,469 bytes)

35. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: David Robbins <k1ttt@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:11:08 -0500 (CDT)
and accuracy compared to what, and over what period?? wind speed is HIGHLY variable over small distances and elevation change. There are specifications for measuring wind that require so much open ar
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00643.html (11,506 bytes)

36. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: GARY HUBER <glhuber@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:54:51 -0500
I really have a problem with the big fans, several hundred locally, that blow almost constantly around EN50nj. (tongue firmly in cheek) 73 & DX, Gary - AB9M --Original Message-- From: David Robbins S
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00648.html (12,704 bytes)

37. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: Rick Kourey <rick.kourey@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:40:52 -0400
Steve, FWIW, for the past 7-years I have operated the Davis Pro-2 "Wireless" Weather Station near my radio and tower with absolutely no problems and no RFI. I was very concerned about the possibility
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00649.html (10,445 bytes)

38. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: GEO Badger via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:52:13 -0700 (PDT)
I believe I have missed something here. Basically, what is the problem statement? Measuring and/or logging wind speed/direction? Early warning in order to be able to lower a tower? Of course one woul
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00654.html (9,211 bytes)

39. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: GARY HUBER <glhuber@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:16:47 -0500
The fans at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Twin_Groves_Wind_Farm_DSC03252.JPG -- 85 foot blades on 270 foot tower. I really have a problem with the big fans, several hundred locally, that blow alm
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00655.html (13,398 bytes)

40. Re: [TowerTalk] Wired Anemometer for Tower? (score: 1)
Author: "Bill Parry" <bparry@rgv.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 18:40:04 -0500
I think that anemometers are an interesting topic but it appears this one has been beat to death and I'm not sure why this is even a topic for TT. Is it because it is attached to a ham radio tower? I
/archives//html/Towertalk/2014-04/msg00656.html (14,034 bytes)


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