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1. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: K7LXC@aol.com
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:29:34 EST
the SteppIR 4-element to your updated list of beam antennas to test and rate in your HF TRIBANDER PERFORMANCE - TEST METHODS & RESULTS . It was a great review article that I wish could be updated wit
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00437.html (7,633 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 13:06:30 -0500
The Force 12 "net gain" numbers are not field verified. They are "model values" derived at a specific height (74 feet) and are the maximum gain for the antenna - not an average across the band. In a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00441.html (9,693 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: Dick NY1E <dickny1e@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:57:13 -0800 (PST)
" As far as the SteppIR, it's a monobander for all practical purposes. " It would be, if they had motors to vary the distance between the elements... otherwise its a tribander (ok 5 bander) with a go
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00445.html (8,080 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:26:00 -0700
No. Triband antennas have multiple elements or sections of the elements that are not needed on other bands. This is not true with a SteppIR. When the SteppIR is tuned for 20m it will not work very we
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00446.html (8,953 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Jamie WW3S" <ww3s@zoominternet.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:32:04 -0500
I think Dick's point is, without a way to adjust the boom length, you can't really compare it to a monobander....my 3 el Steppir , when on 17m, is as close to a monoband 17m as you can get, but when
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00447.html (10,082 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:32:52 -0500
Nonsense! Some 30+ years ago W2PV showed that a monobander was a monobander no matter what the element spacing as long as the elements are properly tuned for their place in the array. Gain is a prod
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00448.html (9,514 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Larry Banks" <larryb.w1dyj@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:38:20 -0500
...and although the element-to-element spacing is not optimized for all frequencies, the element lengths are set to compensate for this as best as possible. It's probably better than a christmas tree
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00449.html (10,355 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Mike" <noddy1211@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:52:41 -0800
You are dead right it is a "tunable "monobander" and in a classification of its own really, so nothing to compare with. Even on 20 meters a three element Steppir has hardly has anything to compare wi
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00450.html (10,161 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:16:47 -0500
No, on 20 it's still a monobander with a 16 boot boom length. That makes the SteppIR three element yagi nearly identical to the well proven Hy-Gain 203BA *20 Meter Monoband Yagi*. 73, ... Joe, W4TV
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00451.html (11,782 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:24:46 -0500
I knew a lot of competitive signals from 203BA antennas "in the day." While a lot of people went for the 204BA (24' boom) and 205BA (32' boom), the 16 boot boom 203BA (same boom length as the 3 elem
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00452.html (12,377 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Gene Fuller" <w2lu@rochester.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:37:06 -0500
This thread is really running thin. That being said, do you really think that given the same height and feed line loss you could tell one or two db difference between antennas. At that point it's mor
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00453.html (12,658 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:02:16 -0500
Absolutely. Over the long term one or two dB will be significant. That's an excellent *joke*. Only a very small portion of the boom length of a log-periodic is active on any one frequency typically
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00459.html (14,618 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m73@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:21:30 -0500
Yeah, but there's another variable besides forward gain, bandwidth and feedpoint impedance: front-to-back ratio. The 3-el and 4-el SteppIRs have only about 11 dB F/B on 10m, which is less than half t
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00460.html (11,214 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:39:02 -0800
I haven't actually tried a model recently, but I would think that you could get arbitrarily good front/back ratios (as in a very good null at 180 degrees), but not a generalized front/everything "beh
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00461.html (10,174 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: Chris Pedder <chris@g3vbl.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:57:48 +0700
Alas, there are some who will deny it! Chris G3VBL _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ TowerTalk mailing list TowerTalk@contesting.com http
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00462.html (9,161 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Doug Turnbull" <turnbull@net1.ie>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:55:47 -0800
The trouble with LP antennas and some multiband Yagis is that they have a very high wind load. The SteppIR avoids this with fewer elements. SteppIR, maintenance has been a problem for some and not fo
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00463.html (13,903 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mts.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 08:24:16 -0600
As someone who is considering a smaller HF antenna for the cottage, I find this discussion quite interesting. I'm struck by Joe's assertion regarding LPs. And I say that only because if you compare
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00465.html (10,506 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:28:33 -0500
You are correct, the 11 dB F/B on 10 meters is because the reflector to driven element spacing has begun to approach 1/4 wave. That's one reason for the optional fixed parasitic elements on six mete
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00466.html (12,424 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:14:56 -0700
I agree on the F/B issue. I built a long boom 15m yagi years ago that worked great. I pointed it to JA from Colorado and it was quiet off the back so much so that stations would constantly move in on
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00467.html (13,785 bytes)

20. Re: [TowerTalk] book Tribander comparison test (score: 1)
Author: K8RI on TT <k8ri-on-towertalk@tm.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:28:21 -0500
It depends on where you live the band opening, and the frequency. Even here in Michigan with a good band opening on 20 I find F/B important. It often makes the difference between being able to copy a
/archives//html/Towertalk/2011-02/msg00468.html (9,401 bytes)


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