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1. [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:16:36 -0400
Can anyone suggest where I can find a calculator for the inductance per foot of copper tubing compared to the same length of copper bar or strip? I'm looking to understand the potential utility of us
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00325.html (7,259 bytes)

2. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Steve W3AHL" <w3ahl@att.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:29:24 -0400
Try http://www.k7mem.150m.com/Electronic_Notebook/inductors/wire_strip.html For a strip not over a ground plane, just set the height/thickness to some large distance (like 36 inches). Select the Indu
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00329.html (9,189 bytes)

3. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m73@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 13:31:11 -0400
I don't know about the inductance, Pete, but my understanding is that soldered connections are not a good idea -- a lightning surge can melt the joints. I think you would need to use a mechanical cla
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00337.html (8,807 bytes)

4. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:08:29 -0400
My tower has had a number of direct lightning strikes and I have never seen a soldered connection fail. I am assuming that Pete is referring to using copper water pipe or refrigeration tubing as a gr
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00340.html (8,775 bytes)

5. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:28:51 -0700
That's not how solder joints fail. Solder has a higher resistance than copper so it drops more voltage due to any current through the connection. Ironically, the better the copper conductor, the more
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00341.html (10,557 bytes)

6. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m73@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:52:08 -0400
I thought he might be thinking about using copper pipe instead of straps to connect the tower to the ground system. From what I've read on the subject, those joints should not be soldered. An in-shac
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00342.html (9,880 bytes)

7. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: Charlie Gallo <Charlie@TheGallos.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:03:08 -0400
I keep seeing "solder melting" - and I have what is probably a very very silly question - What about "Hard" solders like Sil-phos or "Hard" Silver solder? You know, the stuff that takes a Mapp Gas (o
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00343.html (9,820 bytes)

8. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Robert West" <robert.west@eatmoresoap.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:10:31 -0400
I used copper pipe because strap wasn't available cheaply here. I knew not to solder it, solder melting temp too low anyhow, so I brazed it. Seems to do the trick just fine. B0b I thought he might be
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00344.html (11,829 bytes)

9. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Dick Green WC1M" <wc1m73@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:11:10 -0400
I'm no expert, but I would imagine stuff like that would work. But given the requirement for what is basically welding equipment, I think it would be cheaper and easier to use a mechanical clamp or e
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00345.html (10,833 bytes)

10. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:14:25 -0400
I have also read that you should use a mechanical connection for the tower ground and I'm sure that it's good advice, however I have never seen the solder melt on any of my outdoor hardline connectio
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00346.html (11,400 bytes)

11. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: Charlie Gallo <Charlie@TheGallos.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:29:31 -0400
Dick, About what I figured, except I already have the welding gear ;) Charlie -- 73 de KG2V For the Children - RKBA! Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! __________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00347.html (9,429 bytes)

12. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Roger (K8RI)" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:41:21 -0400
I know the "current wisdom" has been not to solder although code IIRC only says that about the ground rod. Looking at the required currents, if the current is high enough to melt solder on the statio
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00348.html (12,379 bytes)

13. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: Charlie Gallo <Charlie@TheGallos.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:41:54 -0400
I know the reputation for copper being hard to drill/tap, but I've never found it that bad. Particularly with tapping, I'd make sure I was only trying to do say a 60% thread or so. What I have NOT tr
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00350.html (9,297 bytes)

14. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Steve, W3AHL" <w3ahl@att.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:34:43 -0400
I received several inquiries off-list, so I'll summarize some of the answers here, instead of replying individually: No, you can't just multiply the inductance of one foot of wire by ten to find the
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00352.html (12,900 bytes)

15. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:23:27 -0700
AWG 6 is .162". Assuming you're talking pipe that's 0.5" in diameter (not half inch pipe, which is actually .625 inch OD), that's a diameter ratio of 3:1, for an impedance ratio of 1:1.2, which is pr
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00362.html (11,978 bytes)

16. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Steve, W3AHL" <w3ahl@att.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:27:34 -0400
Jim, A good approximation is to consider a right angle bend as a 1/4 turn coil with the same radius of the bend. But the typical coil inductance calculators make too many simplifying assumptions to h
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00367.html (11,420 bytes)

17. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:36:24 -0700
Can you give us more details on what you mean here or a citation from a text book? AFAIK, inductance is proportional to length, assuming the whole length is the same distance from ground, as long as
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00370.html (9,994 bytes)

18. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Steve, W3AHL" <w3ahl@att.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 13:06:07 -0400
Comments embedded below. Steve, W3AHL -- Original Message -- From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com> To: "Steve, W3AHL" <w3ahl@att.net> Cc: "TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com> Sen
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00372.html (11,950 bytes)

19. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Rick Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:42:42 -0700 (PDT)
I don't know how "free space" inductance is defined, but these numbers correspond to a characteristic impedance of 148 to 288 ohms, hardly free space. A 1 inch wire 10 feet high over ground would hav
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00374.html (11,634 bytes)

20. Re: [TowerTalk] inductance of tubing vs bar or strip (score: 1)
Author: "Rick Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
Correction: A 1 inch wire 10 feet high over ground would have considerably MORE inductance... Rick N6RK _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________
/archives//html/Towertalk/2009-08/msg00375.html (10,304 bytes)


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