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1. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: ftbrady@cosmoslink.net (Frank T. Brady); Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 00:28:42 -0700; Dear subscribers, I appreciate all the reponses to my yagi opinion survey. The results boiled down to Force 12 and M2 as the "winning" candidates for the 20m monobander. There seems to be sharp disag; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00366.html (8,915 bytes)
2. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: crb@nanoteq.com (Chris R. Burger); Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:26:10 +200; Not quite. As an owner of both the 20M4 and the EF420, I can tell you there is a much more important consideration. The 20M4 is built like a tank, with probably a 3" boom in the middle. The Force 12; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00367.html (9,510 bytes)
3. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: K7LXC@aol.com (K7LXC@aol.com); Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 11:06:58 -0400 (EDT); only there Four elements are "ENOUGH"? Since when? Not in any competitive or big gun wannabe station I've ever seen. As far as the mechanical design considerations, there are two schools of thought.; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00374.html (11,180 bytes)
4. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: force12@interserv.com (force12@interserv.com); Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:05:45 -0700; Good afternoon, Chris. Thought I would make a note to you about your response. The comment about Force 12 using "much thinner tubing" needs to be clarified, because it is generally inaccurate. The tu; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00389.html (9,713 bytes)
5. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: harpole@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Charles H. Harpole); Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:57:55 -0400 (EDT); Physics still says, I think, that more elements, properly placed, equal more gain. Could I, and physics, be wrong? K4VUD -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towert; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00402.html (8,081 bytes)
6. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: aa4lr@radio.org (Bill Coleman AA4LR); Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 16:52:57 -0400; On 6/13/97 9:57 AM, Charles H. Harpole at harpole@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu wrote: The NBS (now NIST) studies of a couple of decades ago decisively showed that the BOOM LENGTH was the primary factor in dete; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00409.html (8,872 bytes)
7. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: ftbrady@cosmoslink.net (Frank T. Brady); Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:23:15 -0700; So -- Maybe Mike at M2 wasn't so wrong when he said that a 4 element on a gain-optimized boom had about as much gain as one could realistically obtain in practice? .2 and .25 spacing of a 20m 4 eleme; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00410.html (10,413 bytes)
8. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: wd4ngb@sprynet.com (wd4ngb@sprynet.com); Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:56:38 -0700; Hello Guys, this is in referance to the long boom monobanders and if they are worth the trouble. I have a hombrew 7 element monobander on 10 meters with a 45 foot boom at 90 feet. The only thing I wo; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00411.html (12,315 bytes)
9. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: dietz@texas.net (Chuck Dietz); Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:43:57 -0500; And a stack of them is really fine! Chuck, KE5FI -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative requests: towertalk-REQUEST@contesting; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00436.html (8,715 bytes)
10. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: broz@csn.net (John Brosnahan); Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:31:30 -0600 (MDT); My 8 over 8 over 8 over 8 on 10M got moonbounce echos about 80% of the time with the best S/N of 15 dB. The 7 over 7 over 7 over 7 on 15M got moonbounce echoes about 40% of the time, but fairly margi; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00439.html (9,614 bytes)
11. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: w7why@mail.coos.or.us (Tom Osborne); Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 17:06:18 +0900; If you had a stack of short boom beams, would that be a "short stack"? Tom W7WHY -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/towertalkfaq.html Submissions: towertalk@contesting.com Administrative reques; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00451.html (9,111 bytes)
12. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: crb@nanoteq.com (Chris R. Burger); Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:25:59 +200; Sure. But the diameter is what determines wind load (in the absence of traps etc.), and it is a fact, based on the comparable antennas from both manufacturers that I own, that the Force 12 elements a; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00491.html (9,672 bytes)
13. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: ftbrady@cosmoslink.net (Frank T. Brady); Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:27:29 -0700; Regarding the Force 12 antennas: I like everything I've heard, but it's hard to see why their antennas are so costly. It's seems as though they are disregarding competitive pricing in some determined; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00493.html (9,574 bytes)
14. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: ftbrady@cosmoslink.net (Frank T. Brady); Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 01:46:29 -0700; Regarding my earlier queries about the cost effectiveness of Force 12: Chris R. Burger privately disagreed with my doubts that the degrees of weight and wind load savings achieved by Force 12 in the; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00494.html (9,348 bytes)
15. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: force12@interserv.com (force12@interserv.com); Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:49:44 -0700; Re: Yagi design criteria. There are several criteria besides boom length in a Yagi design. The advent of computer modeling is, of course, a very useful tool. Not using equal spacing of elements was p; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00495.html (12,235 bytes)
16. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: jwatson@mail.cde.com (John Watson); Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:50:45 -0400; Hi Frank; I don't know where you got the idea that the Force 12 antennas are so outrageously priced. If you compare their cost of the C-3 that I own to the cost of a Moseley Classic 33, (I owned a 33; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00496.html (10,326 bytes)
17. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: ftbrady@cosmoslink.net (Frank T. Brady); Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:31:42 -0700; John, I'm learning a lot from the responses to my "price complaint" - thanks for contributing. I won't go into the points I covered in my followup on the fact that Force 12 is more and more of a barg; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00511.html (12,134 bytes)
18. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: ataylor@midas.llnl.gov (Allan G. Taylor); Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:45:31 -0700 (PDT); Frank: I appreciate your comments re Yagis and pricing. I thought I would toss in my two cents worth for fun. I am looking forward to putting up a Force-12 Magnum 340 (the 3 el yagi you used in your; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00512.html (9,632 bytes)
19. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: tgstewart@pepco.com (tgstewart@pepco.com); Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 15:19:32 -0400; This is all very interesting...but what we really need is an independent third-party analysis of what happens to both of these philosophies when loaded with 1/2" radial ice and a little wind comes al; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00520.html (14,700 bytes)
20. [TowerTalk] yagi comments (score: 1): Author: ftbrady@cosmoslink.net (Frank T. Brady); Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:52:52 -0700; Dennis, Thanks for taking the time to respond. Please note that in my original post I explained why I was asking the questions in a public forum - to stimulate debate over the various antenna values.; /archives//html/Towertalk/1997-06/msg00526.html (9,611 bytes)

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