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1. Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: Bob Kupps <n6bk@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 23:59:52 -0700 (PDT)
Hi it was recently stated that the antenna and ground return current at the feed point terminals (where let's assume the TX is located) must always be equal. And this certainly makes sense to me if w
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00050.html (7,494 bytes)

2. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: K4SAV <RadioIR@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:04:00 -0500
You are misinterpreting what you are seeing. When you put a resistor in one side of a dipole you modify the current distribution in both sides of the dipole and the side with the resistor has a large
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00079.html (8,684 bytes)

3. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: w4buw@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 11:32:11 -0400 (EDT)
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER Gustav Kirchhoff You are misinterpreting what you are seeing. When you put a resistor in ne side of a dipole you modify the current distribution in both sides f the dipole and th
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00080.html (8,842 bytes)

4. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: HAROLD SMITH JR <w0rihps@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 09:05:17 -0700 (PDT)
Price W0RI You are misinterpreting what you are seeing.  When you put a resistor in one side of a dipole you modify the current distribution in both sides of the dipole and the side with the resistor
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00081.html (8,539 bytes)

5. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:47:34 -0400
So I modeled a half wave dipole in free space and sure enough the wire segments on each side of the feed point carried equal current. I then placed a resistive load at the center of one half-element
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00084.html (11,962 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: K4SAV <RadioIR@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:58:28 -0500
Yes current on each side of the feedpoint is always the same but you can't see that with an NEC measurement because you are always measuring one segment away from the feedpoint and when the current d
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00092.html (7,993 bytes)

7. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Bill Wichers" <billw@waveform.net>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 20:21:10 -0400
Tom, it's worth adding to this that trying to make current measurements in the ground using 60hz is pretty useless for another reason: induced currents from the ac power system (especially in north a
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00096.html (9,191 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 20:48:11 -0400
I think you may be selecting the wrong type of source, if you are using EZNEC. In the source-type selection, chose "SI", not "I". A split source places the source at a segment junction, so you can s
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00097.html (9,092 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 21:08:02 -0400
Hi Bill, That must be a problem, too. The entire concept of using 60 Hz, or any frequency far from the operating frequency, is just bizarre to me. It seems like once someone publishes an article, eve
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00099.html (10,069 bytes)

10. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: K4SAV <RadioIR@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 22:06:59 -0500
I forgot about the SI source. That will effectively place the source at a segment junction. Actually it places two sources in the middle of two adjacent segments and that simulates almost the same th
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00101.html (9,683 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 05:25:33 -0400
The fact modeling programs allow perfect sources right at the wire also allows building antennas in models that cannot be built in real life. This has happened several times with antennas. One case
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00104.html (9,886 bytes)

12. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: Yuri Blanarovich <k3bu@optimum.net>
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 09:51:21 -0400 (EDT)
Here we go again, speaking of misinformation, peer review, spreading false "guru" stuff. You can not apply Kirchoff law from DC circuits to the current behavior along the STANDING WAVE RF radiator. C
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00107.html (14,525 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 10:04:07 -0400
Yes, we can. Kirchhoff's law is Kirchhoff's law, and is not frequency dependent. I can't imagine anyone thinking otherwise. Thinking Kirchhoff's law applied only to dc circuits is like thinking Ohm'
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00109.html (8,924 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: Yuri Blanarovich <k3bu@optimum.net>
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:48:27 -0400 (EDT)
Sooo, there is no current and voltage variation along the standing wave resonant dipole? Soooo, Jasik et al, all those antenna books, modeling programs showing RF CURRENT and/or RF VOLTAGE distributi
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00113.html (9,878 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 11:12:37 -0400
Yuri, Kirchhoff's laws apply to ANY system when we include displacement currents. Displacement currents and Kirchhoff's laws have been around since the 1800's. As far as I know, you are the only one
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00115.html (9,956 bytes)

16. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 08:42:43 -0700
Confirming Tom's test. When I first built my 230 foot diameter ground screen, consisting of #16 wires on a 3x3 foot grid with crossovers soldered, I put up a 40 meter vertical in the center to test t
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00119.html (10,781 bytes)

17. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Robert Carroll" <w2wg@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 11:45:41 -0400
Knowing both Tom and Yuri to be two of the best and brightest, I am sure this is going to be an interesting discussion, and only the devil is making me stir the pot a little in an impractical way. Ki
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00120.html (12,853 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: "return" current - what is it? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 12:48:06 -0400
With an infinitely long conductor, the answer is displacement currents. There is no reflected wave, and no need for a reflected wave. It's all part of Maxwell's equations. If we look at any conducto
/archives//html/Topband/2012-08/msg00123.html (9,964 bytes)


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