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1. Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: rfman45 <rfman45@hotmail.com>; Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:20:25 -0500; For various reasons I am considering two single, parallel but 180deg opposing direction beverages on the same supports rather than a single switchable bidirectional beverage. The bevs would be separa; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00172.html (7,082 bytes)
2. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Greg - ZL3IX <zl3ix@inet.net.nz>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 20:05:17 +1200; Hi Mike, I have not tried to run two Bevs like that, but I have tried to run one close to a wire fence. The best F/B I achieved was about 8 dB. I would think that the two scenarios would be very simi; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00176.html (7,530 bytes)
3. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:44:06 -0500; Is this the Beverage above the fence that you mean, Greg? http://www.g3xrj.com/RxArray_files/2wire_bev/2wire_bev.htm That was a good article. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com __________________________________; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00182.html (7,263 bytes)
4. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 10:08:58 -0400; I can understand why a fence would be a problem. Theoretically at least parallel Beverages should have no radiation/coupling. But that then means an absolutely perfectly balanced and terminated pair; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00183.html (9,397 bytes)
5. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Jeff Woods <jmwooods@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 07:19:57 -0700 (PDT); I missed the original post, but if the question pertains to running two independent beverages in opposite directions on the same supports - Yes. It works well. I began doing this last winter, addin; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00184.html (9,575 bytes)
6. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: <g3pqa@onetel.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 15:46:56 +0100; Jeff, EZNEC confirms what you and Neil have found. Modelling Neil G0JHC's antenna with 1000ft beverages at 12ft and 10ft, offset by 30ft length-wise, shows almost identical patterns to a single bever; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00185.html (9,554 bytes)
7. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Jeff Woods <jmwooods@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:21:57 -0700 (PDT); _______________________________________________ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00186.html (8,366 bytes)
8. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Jeff Woods <jmwooods@yahoo.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:44:41 -0700 (PDT); John, Yes, if both beverages are to be the same length, a single wire will work in both directions. I take this approach on the E/W antenna: It's a single-wire with transformers at each end and two; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00187.html (8,971 bytes)
9. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: "GeorgeWallner" <aa7jv@atlanticbb.net>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 11:43:11 -0400; Mike, You are willing to run 2 coax cables and have 2 transformers, but don't want to bother with remote relays, etc. You could simply have a single wire, terminated at each end by a transformer. Run; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00188.html (11,676 bytes)
10. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: <donovanf@starpower.net>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:04:35 -0400 (EDT); The bidirectional Beverage antenna was patented by Harold Beverage in 1922: http://www.google.com/patents?id=oN5iAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=1434984#v=onepage&q=1434984&f=false When Beverage; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00189.html (12,994 bytes)
11. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Herb Schoenbohm <herbs@vitelcom.net>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 12:36:56 -0400; Relays, switches, control voltage, cable power insertions etc. are all sources of problems in some climates. With DC running into a remote box I always find zillions of ants with their unusual defect; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00190.html (9,040 bytes)
12. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:01:05 -0400; Terro ant kill works well around here. If you cant elevate the RG-6 then find some surplus CATV hardline and remote the switching. There are low cost microwave relays that provide a wiping action tha; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00191.html (11,607 bytes)
13. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Herb Schoenbohm <herbs@vitelcom.net>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:52:32 -0400; The portion of the island where I live has been declared as the East End Marine Park and some agency of the local government DPNR has determined that using any chemicals in the ground to deter pests; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00192.html (8,801 bytes)
14. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:12:28 -0500; Herb, Very common problem, with a simple solution. Ants are attracted to the magnetic field around energized wires. Turn off the power to your Beverages whenever you're not using them, and I'll bet t; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00193.html (9,267 bytes)
15. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: rfman45 <rfman45@hotmail.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 14:42:31 -0500; I thank each and every one of you for your well-considered thoughts on my original posting concerning 2 parallel beverages; your overwhelming response proves what a great group inhabits this reflecto; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00194.html (10,491 bytes)
16. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 15:19:50 -0500; There's just one possible issue about all this that is conspicuous by its absence, as they say. At least in some installations, having feedlines going to each end of the Beverage supports is going to; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00195.html (10,129 bytes)
17. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 16:27:12 -0400; What the stupid federal pukes dont know wont hurt them. The Terro is a semi liquid gel that ants walk on and touch with their feelers and bring back into the nest; takes a week or two to wipe it out.; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00196.html (10,835 bytes)
18. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: Herb Schoenbohm <herbs@vitelcom.net>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 16:28:36 -0400; Thanks Mike....This is important information as one of my expensive DX-Engineering control boxes was made totally inoperable by ant defecation. I wanted to try and repair the relay box but DX-E said; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00197.html (10,330 bytes)
19. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 18:48:03 -0400; It can be placed parallel but a few feet away also. Yeah,and Misek lives about 2 miles away but I never hear him on the air. Anyway that was the first Beverage book I bought and quickly discounted it; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00204.html (12,616 bytes)
20. Re: Topband: 2 Parallel Beverages (score: 1): Author: "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com>; Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 18:51:30 -0400; Is this box sealed in epoxy? Why hasnt someone reverse engineered it and published the schematic? If anyone has a bad one send it to me; the least I can do is look at it with a VNA or a GR bridge. Ca; /archives//html/Topband/2012-05/msg00205.html (11,407 bytes)

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