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1. Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:17:03 -0400
Assuming that sufficient tower height was available, guy wires are insulated or broken up into short non-resonant sections. Tower face is 12 or 18". Start at 1/4 wave up with a 1/4 wave ground plane
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00015.html (7,764 bytes)

2. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: "Shoppa, Tim" <tshoppa@wmata.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 02:30:00 +0000
Isn't this a "Vertical dipole"? Two quarter wave radiating elements? And tower behind it will be some kind of reflector/director depending on height. The radials seem unimportant if thought of this w
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00016.html (7,959 bytes)

3. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 23:27:11 -0400
I don't think so, Tim. If I understand Carl, he's describing two ground planes - one above the other - and the pattern/gain would depend on the phasing between the two feeds and the vertical separati
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00017.html (9,608 bytes)

4. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 23:45:40 -0400
Actually, the "normal" way to "stack" vertidals is HORIZONTALLy - into broadside or end-fire arrays. It seems that Carl is describing collinear monopoles - in the case he describes - "collinear" grou
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00018.html (9,192 bytes)

5. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 05:46:40 -0400
Isn't this a "Vertical dipole"? Two quarter wave radiating elements? And tower behind it will be some kind of reflector/director depending on height. The radials seem unimportant if thought of this w
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00019.html (8,746 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 06:03:18 -0700
Tom and all, If I am reading the question correctly, aren't we talking about something that is done at VHF/UHF with great regularity? Stacked vertical elements, stacked vertically polarized beams and
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00020.html (10,465 bytes)

7. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:45:39 -0400
Hi, Mike When you say that you use "stacked" vertical beams - aren't they "stacked" horizontally? It seems to me that the vertical collinear elements,along the lines of what Carl is describing, are g
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00021.html (11,127 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:01:16 -0400
If I am reading the question correctly, aren't we talking about something that is done at VHF/UHF with great regularity? Stacked vertical elements, stacked vertically polarized beams and all manner o
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00022.html (12,988 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:26:13 -0400
Well, if I understand Carl's proposed antenna - he is proposing enough vertical height for two 1/4 wave ground plane antennas, one above the other. In that case I would elect to use a vertical dipole
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00023.html (13,093 bytes)

10. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 08:16:46 -0700
Tom, Fully understood. I wasn't referring to the usual collinear antennas sold by "comet" or anything of that nature. I am referring to the stacking arrangements used for ops like moonbounce, etc. As
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00024.html (15,703 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:25:24 -0400
Fully understood. I wasn't referring to the usual collinear antennas sold by "comet" or anything of that nature. I am referring to the stacking arrangements used for ops like moonbounce, etc. As far
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00025.html (12,372 bytes)

12. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:19:40 -0700
Oh Tom, I FULLY agree that it would be VERY difficult and not very practical, especially considering we are talking 160...... In fact, the price/performance ratio simply wouldn't be worth it, in my o
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00026.html (13,307 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:30:04 -0700
Oh, I didn't address one comment you made, Tom...... 5/8ths are dogs on 160? Really? That is odd in the extreme to me. I had incredible success with a ground mounted 5/8 on 20 meters while I was stat
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00027.html (14,151 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:38:49 -0400
Mike, could you kindly supply the address on Iroquois Point? If it's in the area I'm looking at with Google Earth, the answer why the difference is pretty plain, and points to why such a difference v
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00030.html (15,312 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 14:54:56 -0700
Guy, I was right across from the small marina you see. The difference I am talking about is the difference between a 5/8ths wave vertical and a quarter wave vertical in the same place. I am not talki
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00031.html (17,204 bytes)

16. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:35:48 -0700
Guy, you aren't reading my emails...... because that question is not appropriate to the conversation. I am NOT, I repeat NOT talking the difference between LOCATIONS, but the difference between ANTEN
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00032.html (17,381 bytes)

17. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Bob K6UJ <k6uj@pacbell.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:04:17 -0700
Mike, Tom, W8JI has a comparison between 1/4 wave and 5/8 wave vertical mobile antennas here: http://www.w8ji.com/VHF%20mobile%20vertical.htm He is comparing mobile antennas but it looks like the 5/8
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00033.html (19,398 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:34:24 -0500
Like Tom said earlier, it's all about ground loss. Near the sea, a 1/2 or 5/8 wave vertical may perform very differently than a duplicate antenna a long way from the sea. The near-field and far-field
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00034.html (21,011 bytes)

19. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 19:40:33 -0500
On two meters, yes indeed. But we are talking about 160. To quote Tom above: "Also, for 160, antennas are near earth. Earth spoils everything. A 160 antenna at 260 feet is like a two meter antenna at
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00035.html (10,232 bytes)

20. Re: Topband: Are stacked verticals feasible? (score: 1)
Author: Mike Armstrong <armstrmj@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 18:45:36 -0700
Mike, you are answering the wrong question. Guy didn't understand the question at all. I KNOW that sea water is a better ground than dirt...... The comparison I was ALWAYS talking about had NOTHING A
/archives//html/Topband/2013-09/msg00036.html (28,967 bytes)


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