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21. Re: Topband: beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>; Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:17:42 -0500; Hello Fred, Absolutely you can! Earl, K6SE (SK) swore by it. I have two bi-directional Beverages made from that stuff, which are described in detail at http://www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html. 73; /archives//html/Topband/2011-03/msg00062.html (6,898 bytes)
22. Re: Topband: beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: mrtman777 <mrtman777@bellsouth.net>; Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:56:56 -0700 (PDT); Fred, I just put up a 600 ft beverage with 17 ga. fence wire after reading those reflector posts about beverages last month. It cost me less than $10 for the wire, and I am absolutely amazed by the; /archives//html/Topband/2011-03/msg00063.html (7,972 bytes)
23. Re: Topband: beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: Matt <vk2dag@arrl.net>; Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:22:17 +1100; Me three! I use 1.6mm electric fence wire for both of my 190m long bi-directional beverages. I made them into 400 ohm line with spacers made out of poly pipe, sliced down the middle, drilled 4 holes; /archives//html/Topband/2011-03/msg00067.html (7,385 bytes)
24. Re: Topband: beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 00:43:07 -0500; You weren't kidding! I've used the Beverage mainly for listening on 160 and below, but on 40 meters, WOW! Thanks for lighting a fire under me. I just built a 40 meter ground plane I designed in EZNEC; /archives//html/Topband/2011-04/msg00045.html (7,049 bytes)
25. Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: "Bruce" <k1fz@myfairpoint.net>; Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 12:56:54 -0700; Re Craig: There are no perfect solutions for Beverage wire and all have problems. One big factor in the Northeast is Limes Disease, spread by Deer ticks, from Deer, and a few other creatures. It beco; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00292.html (7,437 bytes)
26. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: <donovanf@starpower.net>; Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:17:01 -0400 (EDT); Bruce is correct that Beverage antenna installation and maintenance brings on the risk of life changing Lyme disease. Lyme disease is present in many areas of the world, but particularly in the non-a; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00294.html (10,303 bytes)
27. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: "Milt -- N5IA" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>; Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:39:00 -0700; And out here in the ARID areas of the US, Beverage antenna installation and maintenance brings on the risk of life changing encounters with rattle snakes and Gila Monsters http://en.wikipedia.org/wik; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00296.html (8,213 bytes)
28. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: "Herb Schoenbohm" <herbs@vitelcom.net>; Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 17:46:11 +0000; Remember the old movie "Tales of the Sierra Madre were Arthur Brennen warned Boggy not to put his hand under the rock "cause there is a Gila Monster there? Herb, KV4FZ Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T And; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00297.html (8,946 bytes)
29. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>; Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:04:12 -0400; Ticks carry many things, some that doctors are not familiar with. Installing antennas in the woods here in Georgia, I contracted Ehrlichiosis from a Lone-star tick. I was very ill, like having the fl; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00300.html (7,854 bytes)
30. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: Brian Hemmis <bhemmis@mac.com>; Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:15:32 -0400; _______________________________________________ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00301.html (8,019 bytes)
31. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com>; Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:32:18 -0400; ** Wide spacing is also more prone to unbalance wheras close spacing and twisting promotes good balance. ** That barely qualifies as a subjective test and 300' for Topband isnt that directive/effecti; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00312.html (9,332 bytes)
32. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>; Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:39:16 -0400; What may be more destructive is a slow velocity factor in the insulated wire. There is no way to estimate that, you just have to measure it. If the VF is low, then you get into the same kind of probl; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00313.html (10,552 bytes)
33. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: <f6bki@orange.fr>; Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:02:11 -0800; Hello All, Just found old datas on a similar line made for the French Army , results are the following: The impedance was determined by measurements to be around 150 Ohms old message: I measured the; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00316.html (12,014 bytes)
34. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>; Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 03:53:46 -0400; I'm just thinking about the probably slow velocity factor of the stuff Jacques describes, the loss, and the poor performance it would give if used for a reversible beverage. The losses as a reversibl; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00317.html (13,659 bytes)
35. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>; Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:12:42 -0400; Hi Guy, Good topic. Slow wave structures are more common in microwave. Anything that increases capacitance or inductance per unit foot will slow wave propagation. The formulas are 1/f*sqrt LC for wav; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00318.html (10,757 bytes)
36. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>; Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:17:20 -0500; It's interesting to read the results of the comparison that Herb did between some and open wire line back in 2008: http://lists.contesting.com/_topband/2008-12/msg00016.html As for low velocity fact; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00319.html (8,752 bytes)
37. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>; Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:38:26 -0400; Yeah, so he says when the wire is new. There is an ASSUMPTION that stuff retains characteristic at RF over time when it was only designed for audio. Have you ever noticed how pungent that stuff smell; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00320.html (9,924 bytes)
38. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: "ZR" <zr@jeremy.mv.com>; Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:55:18 -0400; I dont know about your "most" comment but a Slinky Beverage works very well as long as its kept under the direction reversing length. Its easy to calculate the electrical wavelength and then the adde; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00321.html (10,339 bytes)
39. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: <donovanf@starpower.net>; Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:31:24 -0400 (EDT); There is an excellent article in the July/August 2012 issue of QEX describing how the author improved the performance of a Beverage by breaking it into two in-line segments coupled by a pair of conve; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00322.html (12,901 bytes)
40. Re: Topband: Beverage antennas (score: 1): Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>; Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:46:44 -0400; <<< In theory two parallel 600 foot Beverages even 65 feet apart should allow some additional enhancement if fed properly.>>> Only if staggered to allow end-fire. The myth close-spaced Beverages (or; /archives//html/Topband/2012-07/msg00323.html (10,386 bytes)

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