- 1. Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "k1fz" <k1fz@prexar.com>
- Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:04:29 -0500
- Thanks to all who sent information as to their close to earth/on earth antennas. All said there was little affect from snow and ice on their particular antenna.. Some have experimented with height fo
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00185.html (7,629 bytes)
- 2. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "john battin" <jbattin@msn.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 06:18:04 -0600
- I believe the advantage you are seeing with a low beverage is the reduction of pick-up from the feeds. When you think about it, the 8 foot vertical at each end of the higher beverage is 1/4 wave on 1
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00188.html (9,087 bytes)
- 3. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:52:25 -0500
- I believe the advantage you are seeing with a low beverage is the reduction of pick-up from the feeds. When you think about it, the 8 foot vertical at each end of the higher beverage is 1/4 wave on 1
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00189.html (8,560 bytes)
- 4. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:58:39 -0500
- Another thing that I liked was an even larger front to back on higher bands. By the time I reached 10 meters I was seeing about 40db on an stock inaccurate S-meter. (No down lead from the Beverage to
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00190.html (8,384 bytes)
- 5. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "john battin" <jbattin@msn.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 06:57:50 -0600
- I believe the advantage you are seeing with a low beverage is the reduction of pick-up from the feeds. When you think about it, the 8 foot vertical at each end of the higher beverage is 1/4 wave on 1
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00191.html (9,959 bytes)
- 6. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:24:21 -0500
- All this may be fine but with beverages 8 foot beverages, on higher frequencies if I cut the beverage off and just leave the feed, the signal stays the same. As the frequency goes lower the effect di
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00192.html (9,339 bytes)
- 7. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "john battin" <jbattin@msn.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 07:32:07 -0600
- All this may be fine but with beverages 8 foot beverages, on higher frequencies if I cut the beverage off and just leave the feed, the signal stays the same. As the frequency goes lower the effect di
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00193.html (10,012 bytes)
- 8. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:23:57 -0500
- This may all be true, but my measurements show that the signals off the back and sides of my beverages are dominated by pick-up in the feed wire. If I am listening to signal off the side, and cut the
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00194.html (9,253 bytes)
- 9. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Ted Demopoulos, KT1V" <kt1v@demop.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:27:29 -0500
- At 09:23 AM 11/19/2004, Tom Rauch wrote: At my QTH when a Beverage breaks off at the feed pole, the system goes virtually stone deaf. This is exactly what I see too. In fact, I have a "dead" Beverage
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00195.html (8,277 bytes)
- 10. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "john battin" <jbattin@msn.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:53:24 -0600
- I believe the advantage you are seeing with a low beverage is the reduction of pick-up from the feeds. When you think about it, the 8 foot vertical at each end of the higher beverage is 1/4 wave on 1
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00199.html (11,620 bytes)
- 11. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Milt Jensen" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:47:17 -0700
- I believe the advantage you are seeing with a low beverage is the reduction of pick-up from the feeds. When you think about it, the 8 foot vertical at each end of the higher beverage is 1/4 wave on 1
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00200.html (11,602 bytes)
- 12. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: Sinisa Hristov <shristov@ptt.yu>
- Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:28:35 -0500
- Have you tried the same test with sloping wires? 73, Sinisa YT1NT, VE3EA _______________________________________________ Topband mailing list Topband@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailma
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00201.html (8,501 bytes)
- 13. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Milt Jensen, N5IA" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
- Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:48:57 -0700
- Hello Sinisa, No I haven't, but reason tells me it would work just like the random wire I would throw out as a kid to connect to my BC and SW receivers; very well! My sloping terminations have always
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00203.html (10,031 bytes)
- 14. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: Sinisa Hristov <shristov@ptt.yu>
- Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:45:40 -0500
- Sounds logical to me, but that would invalidate any advantage of using sloping vs. vertical terminations. I think Tom W8JI noted earlier that there is actually no advantage at all, and I was just cur
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00204.html (8,589 bytes)
- 15. RE: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Chuck Hutton" <charlesh3@msn.com>
- Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:12:25 -0800
- It will be awhile before I have the automated Beverage raising & lowering equipment ready to test this myself.... Chuck John said: I believe the advantage you are seeing with a low beverage is the re
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00205.html (10,364 bytes)
- 16. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Donald Chester" <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 07:00:14 +0000
- Sounds logical to me, but that would invalidate any advantage of using sloping vs. vertical terminations. I think Tom W8JI noted earlier that there is actually no advantage at all, and I was just cur
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00206.html (9,004 bytes)
- 17. Re: Topband: Close to earth Beverage. (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
- Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:43:31 -0500
- Milt and All, We have two issues here to solve. 1.) Quantifying the problem. We have to do that and we can do that with a reliable valid measurement. We certainly can't guess, and I don't want to dep
- /archives//html/Topband/2004-11/msg00213.html (12,630 bytes)
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