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1. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Greg Chartrand <w7my@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
I love my trees. They have held up my 160 antennas at my QTH for the last 18 years. For them to make a significant impact on my ability to transmit, they would have to absorb at least 3db (750 watts)
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00090.html (7,274 bytes)

2. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 11:15:03 -0400
I share your opinions and sentiments, Greg! Over the years I've worked some pretty good stuff around the world on 160 with inverted- Ls held up by trees, running a bit less power than you - abt 500-6
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00091.html (8,201 bytes)

3. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Rick Stealey <rstealey@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:20:24 +0000
So your loss is less than 3 db, and so it's of no concern to you? I know 160 meter ops who would, and do, pay lots of money for an extra 3 db. Say your tree loss was really 5 db (or even 10) you wou
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00092.html (8,166 bytes)

4. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:40:06 -0400
Just thinking here - I can hold my hand on a 75 watt lightbulb for a few seconds. 10 of those lightbulbs-worth of heat isn't very much heat, dissipated over the surface area of the bark of a tree, 60
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00093.html (8,489 bytes)

5. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: "Shoppa, Tim" <tshoppa@wmata.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 17:04:24 +0000
Different folks here have promulgated a "high voltage point loss" model for antennas in trees. I think this could be a valid model for a doublet hung with wires directly touching wet tree branches, I
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00094.html (10,463 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 13:09:40 -0400 (EDT)
When I was a teenager chasing Gus Browning on 40 meters I caught a tree on fire at night because the end of my dipole was in some dead tree branches! My parents were not happy... 73 Frank W3LPL -- Or
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00095.html (10,596 bytes)

7. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 10:25:35 -0700
One of the first antennas I hung when I moved here was a horizontal dipole for 80 with loading coils for 160M, built with THHN. One end was touching a branch. When I took it down to re-rig it, I disc
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00096.html (8,693 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Greg Chartrand <w7my@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 13:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
I expect the losses are related to current not voltage. The current of my antenna is in the vertical section for the most part and loss would would have to happen there as coupled to the nearest tree
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00102.html (9,587 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 16:51:45 -0400
You're a man after my own heart, Greg! I never worried so much about the "Dbs". As a DXer, I generally listened a lot, and I found that on 160, if I could hear them - more often than not, I could wor
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00103.html (10,434 bytes)

10. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: N1BUG <paul@n1bug.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:54:50 -0400
No receive antennas? With 1500 watts into a 100 foot vertical (tower with 7 element 6 meter beam for top loading and nearly 10K feet of wire in radials), and a collection of at best mediocre reversib
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00104.html (8,311 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 23:31:52 -0400
I expect the losses are related to current not voltage. The current of my antenna is in the vertical section for the most part and loss would would have to happen there as coupled to the nearest tree
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00109.html (10,264 bytes)

12. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Gary and Kathleen Pearse <pearse@gci.net>
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 20:31:16 -0800
Where are the high voltage points in a "T" antenna? I have the choice of putting up either a new T between two trees, or an L again on 160M. The ends of the T would by necessity be strung over and go
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00110.html (8,623 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 22:23:29 -0700
The end of an antenna (for example, at the end insulator of a wire antenna) MUST be a current minimum (near zero) because there is no place for it to go except by capacitance to space or surrounding
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00111.html (10,655 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:28:28 -0400
Where are the high voltage points in a "T" antenna? The highest voltage is generally at the open end, but how high that voltage is depends on the boundary area between the antenna and whatever is aro
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00112.html (11,363 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 07:51:29 -0700
Yes, and that's exactly why those who ask these questions are asking them. I don't think anyone can answer any questions about this with more than a guess. Yep. My suggestions were a "somewhat educat
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00113.html (9,180 bytes)

16. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Rick Stealey <rstealey@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 15:16:39 +0000
This is a a very significant statement when you think about it. Ask anyone you talk to on the air how he likes his antenna. Most will say they like it, it's doing great. Ask them how they know. If th
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00114.html (9,147 bytes)

17. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:58:38 -0700
Here is a little data in a sea of complexity: My 160m T is 10' up at the base with 6 x 125' radials elevated ten feet (4 more planned), in a mixed hemlock/red cedar/alder forest/clear area. The top i
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00115.html (11,830 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Gary and Kathleen Pearse <pearse@gci.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:08:16 -0800
Thank you all for the replies regarding the "T" versus "L" rebuild for my 160 antenna. I'm on a 120x120' city lot in Fairbanks. For fun look me up in QRZ, under 'Detail' zoom in for a satellite view
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00116.html (10,585 bytes)

19. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:19:57 -0400
the one that looks the best and takes the most work will make you feel like you have the best signal you ever had, but no one else will notice the change except you unless you tell them about all the
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00117.html (9,146 bytes)

20. Re: Topband: Effect of trees- tree appreciation (score: 1)
Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:52:07 -0500
This is a VERY profound piece of advice! The RBN showed me that something was definitely wrong with my TX signal level this summer. It was considerably down from several other stations not that far a
/archives//html/Topband/2013-08/msg00119.html (9,216 bytes)


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