- 1. Topband: Ground conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: "K1FZ-Bruce" <k1fz@myfairpoint.net>
- Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:16:48 -0400
- Done my yearly spring maintenance of my SE single wire Beverage antenna. With poor soil, It typically is best with a 350 ohm matching transformer and a 330 to 350 ohm termination resistor. Bu
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- 2. Re: Topband: Ground conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: "R. David Eagle via Topband" <topband@contesting.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 02:40:39 +0000 (UTC)
- Bruce, I believe that is extremely possible. I have witnessed the same exact thing here in northern lower MI where we live in giant sandbox. I have especially noticed changes in feed point impedanc
- /archives//html/Topband/2016-03/msg00280.html (8,866 bytes)
- 3. Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: "Chortek, Robert L." <Robert.Chortek@berliner.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:01:54 +0000
- A quick question for the collective wisdom on this esteemed reflector: How would one categorize the quality of ground consisting of grass. For example, if you live next to a large (many acres) open s
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00288.html (7,286 bytes)
- 4. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Artek Manuals <Manuals@ArtekManuals.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 18:45:23 -0400
- On 160M the " skin depth" of ground goes beyond the grass ...so it depends on more than just your yard but also the type of soil underneath, how often it is watered , fertilized etc etc. What are you
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00290.html (8,358 bytes)
- 5. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:53:00 -0500
- You may find this interesting. https://ham.stackexchange.com/a/14799/8717 How useful it is, is another matter! ;-) 73, Mike W0BTU _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_top
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- 6. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: "Chortek, Robert L." <Robert.Chortek@berliner.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:57:34 +0000
- Hi Dave, Im (just) starting to play with EZNEC and want to know what type of ground Im dealing with when Im running various models. I live on the second fairway of a.golf course and the way its confi
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- 7. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Dave Cuthbert <telegrapher9@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:21:07 -1000
- AA6VB, QTH San Jose, California looks like *8 mS/m* FCC ground conductivity map https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/m3-ground-conductivity-map A more detailed map https://www.americanradiohistory.com/FCC
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00294.html (8,769 bytes)
- 8. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Dave Cuthbert <telegrapher9@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 13:35:33 -1000
- Robert, an EZNEC model of your vertical as described in your QRZ bio shows your measured 29.7 ohm input resistance when ground conductivity is set to *0.008 S/m*. EZNEC calls this (0.0075S/12) ground
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00295.html (9,087 bytes)
- 9. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:48:29 -0700
- FYI some data which I found interesting My dry earth at end of summer to very wet winter (WWA) causes my lightning ground system DC (actually about 300Hz AC) resistance to vary about 40% lower, ie 7+
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- 10. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 18:23:52 -0700
- How would one categorize the quality of ground consisting of grass. For example, if you live next to a large (many acres) open space made entirely of well watered grass, would that qualify as average
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00297.html (8,777 bytes)
- 11. Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: "Chortek, Robert L." <Robert.Chortek@berliner.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 02:36:15 +0000
- Thank you all for your very helpful and informative responses. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to respond. Much appreciated! 73, Bob/AA6VB Robert L. Chortek _________________ Searchable Archiv
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- 12. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Wes <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 20:37:09 -0700
- I have saved all (I think) of Rudy's papers on antennas and ground. What a resource. He seems to have boundless energy, patience and perseverance. Wes N7WS On 3/23/2020 6:23 PM, Richard (Rick) Karl
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00302.html (8,273 bytes)
- 13. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: donovanf@starpower.net
- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 00:05:58 -0400 (EDT)
- Excellent skin depth reference here: www.antennasbyn6lf.com/files/ground_skin_depth_and_wavelength.pdf Ground characteristics are much more significant for vertical polarization than for horizontal p
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00303.html (9,753 bytes)
- 14. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:04:57 -0700
- www.antennasbyn6lf.com/files/ground_skin_depth_and_wavelength.pdf Rudy is a great reference for anything he's chosen to study. An excellent engineer and scientist. Ground characteristics are much mor
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- 15. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 22:14:47 -0700
- A casual observer sightseeing would have no idea of this change in soil. Here's a link to the ground conductivity contour map from FCC Regs for the AM broadcast band. http://k9yc.com/FCC-GroundMap.zi
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- 16. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Dan Maguire via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 05:18:15 +0000 (UTC)
- Turns out that very subject was being kicked around on a recent qrz.com thread: https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/indirect-measurement-of-ground-constants-with-a-dipole.696955/ Dan, AC6LA ____
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00309.html (8,164 bytes)
- 17. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 23:02:55 -0700
- A heuristic way to judge ground conductivity: If 160 meter Beverages work well, especially over 1 wavelength long, you don't have high ground conductivity. If Beverages are not particularly sensitive
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00310.html (8,160 bytes)
- 18. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Artek Manuals <Manuals@ArtekManuals.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:21:05 -0400
- Ahhh .......but what about vertical antennas with elevated radials ????? www.antennasbyn6lf.com/files/ground_skin_depth_and_wavelength.pdf Rudy is a great reference for anything he's chosen to study.
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- 19. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: GEORGE WALLNER <aa7jv@atlanticbb.net>
- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 09:21:31 -0400
- To some extent the term "ground conductivity" is misleading. It gives us false hope. If we thought of it as ground "resistance" we would gain a better appreciation of what it does to RF currents. In
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00316.html (9,296 bytes)
- 20. Re: Topband: Ground Conductivity (score: 1)
- Author: Roy Morgan <k1lky68@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 11:42:05 -0400
- George, Your comment about over simplifying reminds me of a very early explanation of radio communication - or was it telegraph? I can remember only a little: "It's like wiggling the tail of a cat. I
- /archives//html/Topband/2020-03/msg00318.html (8,768 bytes)
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