- 1. Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Bob Eldridge" <eldridge@direct.ca>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:45:47 -0800
- I posted this on TowerTalk and I got a couple of responses as to why the ends of ground radials should not be grounded. Isn't it dependent on whether you want the radials resonant or not? And if you
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00249.html (9,677 bytes)
- 2. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:58:20 -0500
- I generally agree with you, Bob - especially with regard to not grounding the far ends of 1/4 wave radials!! After all what we are trying to establish is a low-impedance "image plane" for the vertica
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00250.html (10,860 bytes)
- 3. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: Bill Wichers <billw@waveform.net>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:26:34 +0000
- It seems to me that whether or not one grounded the far end of a radial would make no difference. I don't see why one would want to ground the end of their radial, but if it was done with a ground ro
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00251.html (11,758 bytes)
- 4. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:23:04 -0500
- True, I expect, Carl. Just don't ground it! If you think about it, a more-or-less ideal "image - plane" for the vertical would be a circular metallic sheet a 1/2 wave in diameter ( although "infinite
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00252.html (13,088 bytes)
- 5. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Doug Renwick" <ve5ra@sasktel.net>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 16:32:02 -0600
- If I lay my 1/4 wavelength bare radials several inches below ground; is that not the same as if the radials were grounded along their length? Doug --Original Message-- True, I expect, Carl. Just don'
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00253.html (10,508 bytes)
- 6. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:34:06 -0500
- I am guessing that Bob is talking about insulated wire on the ground. But some specifics from him would be useful. Frequently mentioned specific radial implementations, in no specific order: 1) Raise
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00254.html (11,032 bytes)
- 7. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 17:42:37 -0500
- Yes. And the operative words there are "along its length" - very different from grounding at its end! The nastiest, and most difficult case to model and analyze is the case of "radials" laid on the g
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00255.html (11,406 bytes)
- 8. Topband: grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Bob Eldridge" <eldridge@direct.ca>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 15:53:15 -0800
- but if it was done with a ground rod that's not really much of a "ground" for rf. It isn't there to "provide a ground". It is there to intercept "return" rf, which "flows" not far below the surface.
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00256.html (7,940 bytes)
- 9. Re: Topband: grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:15:55 -0500
- But why "ground" the end of a bare buried radial that's already buried in the ground?? Probably be more effective to just soak the area with Calcium Chloride or something! A radial network of elevate
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00257.html (9,061 bytes)
- 10. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:34:03 -0600
- Elevated radial wires perform much differently than buried radial wires. Elevated, horizontal radial wires having self-resonant 1/4 wavelength used as all, or part of an elevated counterpoise for a m
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00259.html (9,339 bytes)
- 11. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:46:43 -0500
- I generally agree with you, Bob - especially with regard to not grounding the far ends of 1/4 wave radials!! After all what we are trying to establish is a low-impedance "image plane" for the vertica
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00260.html (11,449 bytes)
- 12. Re: Topband: Grounding the ends of radials (score: 1)
- Author: "Charlie Cunningham" <charlie-cunningham@nc.rr.com>
- Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 21:05:09 -0500
- All true, of course. Aside from the rocky condition of my lot, one of the main reasons that I rely on elevated radials is that I can model those antennas handily and I get good measurable results tha
- /archives//html/Topband/2014-01/msg00261.html (12,157 bytes)
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