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1. Topband: power (score: 1): Author: "Bob Eldridge" <eldridge@direct.ca>; Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:55:23 -0700; I seldom post to the whole group, but Bill lets this perennial thread flow, so . . . Of course there are cheaters and always have been, even at some multis. That is stretching a point a bit, unless J; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00004.html (7,393 bytes)
2. Re: Topband: power (score: 1): Author: PACER99@aol.com; Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:04:09 EDT; I guess I was lucky to live in the glory days of 160. I hope they come again. Bob VE7BS bob, the "glory days" will be back in october. see you then. 73, larry n7dd **Gas prices getting you down? Sear; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00005.html (7,208 bytes)
3. Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: GEORGE WALLNER <gwallner@the-beach.net>; Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:12:20 -0400; Perhaps one more comment on this subject: Please remember that when one is using low power, it is the poor guy at the other end who is doing the hard work! CU on TB (with a good signal)... 73, George; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00006.html (6,805 bytes)
4. Re: Topband: power (score: 1): Author: "Harold Smith" <w0rihps@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:10:46 -0500; Hi Bob, Nice to see your comments on the reflector. They will come again ! ! ! It was nice to operate at BY1QH in '98 with Merv K9FD. Most contacts were on 160. It was interesting to hear the signal; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00007.html (7,465 bytes)
5. Re: Topband: power (score: 1): Author: wb6rse1@mac.com; Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:52:08 -0700; It all depends on your goals. 100 watts and wire from the USA East Coast will work, EU, Caribbean, SA and AF when west of the Mississippi hears only noise. My QTH is in Los Angeles about 4 miles from; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00009.html (7,894 bytes)
6. Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: calle.jonsson@sverige.nu; Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:51:03 +0200 (CEST); It is a well-known fact that some stations are over-powering (using illegal power). If you´re 59+40db when everybody else is 559 (from the same area) it is more often than not illegal power. Especial; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00020.html (7,644 bytes)
7. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: "Peter Voelpel" <df3kv@t-online.de>; Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:30:14 +0200; --Original Message-- power). If you´re 59+40db when everybody else >is 559 (from the same area) it is more often than not illegal power. Especially during contests the "big guns" show up. If the "eve; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00021.html (7,558 bytes)
8. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: mike l dormann <w7dra@juno.com>; Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:30:18 -0700; the way i used to hear it, if you were 229, illegal power could probably (or just maybe, lets be honest here) 239. illegal power mostly gives one a feeling of superiority mike w7dra with 400 watts to; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00022.html (8,033 bytes)
9. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>; Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:42:45 -0700; And by propagation. Doing the arithmetic -- the difference between 1.5kW and 5kW is 5 dB. Going to 10kW is another 3 dB. As to location -- I'm up 2,000 ft, with a 5 mile downslope to the Pacific, but; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00023.html (8,525 bytes)
10. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: "Harold Smith" <w0rihps@sbcglobal.net>; Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:28:54 -0500; If the "every body else" stations run legal power the illegal power from the "big guns" in that case is 1,5MW? The big differences in signal strength are generally caused by location and antennas, no; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00025.html (8,493 bytes)
11. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net>; Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:01:42 -1000; Peter is right about this, and if we do a little bit of pondering about how much RF those law breakers might actually be generating, we'll find that they are not likely to have even 10 dB higher sig; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00026.html (8,877 bytes)
12. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: "Peter Voelpel" <df3kv@t-online.de>; Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:27:08 +0200; If the "every body else" stations run legal power the illegal power from the "big guns" in that case is 1,5MW? The big differences in signal strength are generally caused by location and antennas, no; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00028.html (9,659 bytes)
13. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: "Alex" <kr1st@amsat.org>; Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 01:00:40 -0400; I wouldn't exclude propagation either. 73, --Alex KR1ST http://www.kr1st.com _______________________________________________ Topband mailing list Topband@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/ma; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00031.html (8,047 bytes)
14. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: "Peter Voelpel" <df3kv@t-online.de>; Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:02:03 +0200; I wouldn't exclude propagation either. Right, but he compared between stations from the same aerea in that case 73 Peter _______________________________________________ Topband mailing list Topband@c; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00032.html (8,480 bytes)
15. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: "Guy Olinger, K2AV" <olinger@bellsouth.net>; Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:37:50 -0400; In the discussion about "benefits" of higher and higher power... Broadcasters are not concerned about reciprocity, e.g. two-way QSO's. An extra 10 db in signal can make use of paths with less reliabi; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00034.html (9,357 bytes)
16. Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: RK <midnight18@cox.net>; Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:42:39 +0000; Slashdot style comments (Score:5, Insightful) I contribute "Big Guns" with big signals mostly superb stations with big antennas. I do believe many top contest stations in the US exceed the maximum; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00037.html (8,303 bytes)
17. Re: Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: Merv Schweigert <k9fd@flex.com>; Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:13:33 -1000; I sure have to agree with this statement, so far every radio I have tried with DSP and or noise reduction removes the signal in the noise. Many radios work fine when the signal is just above the noi; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00040.html (9,548 bytes)
18. Topband: Power (score: 1): Author: calle.jonsson@sverige.nu; Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:54:27 +0200 (CEST); I´m very glad that my opinion on illegal power woke such an interest with a lot of calculating with dB´s etc. Let me put it this way: I KNOW that some people are overpowering on TB. In a few cases I; /archives//html/Topband/2008-07/msg00062.html (8,187 bytes)

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