- 1. Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: Ignacy Misztal <no9e@arrl.net>
- Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 17:50:53 -0500
- Do more radials on a 160m vertical bring more improvements than shown by simulation? Most simulations, e.g. by EZNEC, show that going above 32 radials on 160m brings minimal improvement, say 1 db to
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00080.html (7,036 bytes)
- 2. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: Frank W3LPL <donovanf@starpower.net>
- Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:16:30 -0500 (EST)
- Hi Ignacy - There's little hope that a vertical antenna hundreds of miles from salt water can ever close the gap with an antenna built over a salt marsh or within about a wavelength of salt water. Th
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00082.html (9,324 bytes)
- 3. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: Artek Manuals <Manuals@ArtekManuals.com>
- Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:50:01 -0500
- Soil conductivity plays a much bigger role than most of us realize and the "over salt water" is the gold standard`. As noted by a few other respondents radials are certainly helpful but for those of
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00086.html (8,366 bytes)
- 4. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: Brian D G3VGZ <topband@planet3.freeuk.co.uk>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 01:17:39 +0000
- One other situation, above large quantities of dry ice, Antarctica or perhaps Greenland. -- Brian D G3VGZ _________________ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
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- 5. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: donroden@hiwaay.net
- Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:30:20 -0600
- Possibly Bouvet in January... W4DNR One other situation, above large quantities of dry ice, Antarctica or perhaps Greenland. Radials have no useful effect in improving low angle radiation, low angle
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00088.html (7,990 bytes)
- 6. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: <n4is@comcast.net>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 07:25:35 -0500
- Hi Frank You wrote " . A vertical over a salt marsh or within about a wavelength of salt water will produce 6 dB or more of gain at low angles compared to a vertical with poorly conducting soil in it
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00094.html (8,339 bytes)
- 7. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: Frank W3LPL <donovanf@starpower.net>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:38:36 -0500 (EST)
- Hi JC, I didn't think it would be productive to cover in-the-salt-water antennas in my reply to a specific question about how to improve the performance of an antenna hundreds of miles from the ocean
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00095.html (9,177 bytes)
- 8. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:58:23 -0500
- Having walked around on the beach with a battery K2 listening to incoming signals on a short antenna, walking 50 feet from the water drops signals multiple S units. Over the beach there is an absorpt
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00097.html (10,327 bytes)
- 9. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 12:16:13 -0800
- In this discussion, it's important to realize that the earth, salt water, and radials, serve two functions. Soil in all its forms is a big resistor. Radials serve to carry return current for the ante
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00102.html (10,569 bytes)
- 10. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: <n0tt1@juno.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 17:15:51 -0600
- incoming signals on a short antenna, walking 50 feet from the water drops signals multiple S units." Perhaps the handheld radio has a better ground connection, capacity coupled or not, through you a
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00108.html (11,718 bytes)
- 11. Re: Topband: Radials, EZNEC and far field (score: 1)
- Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 17:29:39 -0500
- Hi Charlie. Naw, it's also the same if you hang it on a long strap or simply set it down on the sand. The incoming distant signal is simply diminished at that point. The essential modifying aspect is
- /archives//html/Topband/2022-12/msg00115.html (13,018 bytes)
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