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1. Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 23:58:24 -0500
It seems to me that I've seen some discussion about running a wire on the ground along the length of a beverage to connect the grounds between the feedpoint and the termination. Is this true? This 1
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00017.html (6,700 bytes)

2. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:51:35 -0400
Hi Ford, It seems to me that I've seen some discussion about running a wire on the ground along the length of a beverage to connect the grounds between the feedpoint and the termination. Is this true
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00019.html (9,164 bytes)

3. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: Larry Molitor <w7iuv@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:41:08 -0700 (PDT)
This discussion has been interesting and informative especially because I've been considering the construction of a two wire Beverage system later this year when I can get into the pasture again. I h
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00020.html (9,050 bytes)

4. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:48:46 -0500
Well, it comes with some merit at this link... http://exax.net/ Several of the diagrams describe a ground return line between the ends. ...SNIP... ...SNIP... Several respondants to the query indicate
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00021.html (9,869 bytes)

5. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:13:51 -0400
effort. It seems a lot more people have them than I first thought but they don't seem to brag about them much. Is this because of lackluster performance caused by the stringent requirments for trans
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00022.html (9,510 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:04:43 -0400
http://exax.net/ Several of the diagrams describe a ground return line between the ends.>> I can describe anything I like, but even if I tell you something is wonderful if it doesn't make the least
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00023.html (11,444 bytes)

7. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: Roger D Johnson <n1rj@adelphia.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:46:12 -0400
Tom Rauch wrote: Second, if it did work to crate a low resistance path the effect would only be to make the antenna stop working. Beverages depend on ground losses to function. I respectfully beg to
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00024.html (8,812 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 15:08:55 -0400
developed ground a signal OK, that's one explanation for the wave. It's really just a way of saying the soil has loss. We have the same effect with verticals, and the effect works on 30MHz as well a
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00025.html (11,246 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: Larry Molitor <w7iuv@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:09:59 -0700 (PDT)
Tom, How close is "fairly close"? Are we talking twin lead close? Commercial 450 ohm ladder line close? Is 6 inches to far? At what point does the ratio of surge impedance to ground resistance cause
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00026.html (9,277 bytes)

10. RE: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Donald Chester" <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:54:52 +0000
It seems to me that I've seen some discussion about running a wire on the ground along the length of a beverage to connect the grounds between the feedpoint and the termination...would another run of
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00027.html (9,115 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "CHARLES HUTTON" <charlesh3@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:10:22 +0000
This is often not true, but depends on the particular cases. Any tilting of the wavefront induces voltage in a Beverage, regardless of whether the tilt is caused by the incoming wavefront being recei
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00028.html (10,532 bytes)

12. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Donald Chester" <k4kyv@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 23:16:55 +0000
Assuming a person overcomes the transformer issues, what about grounds? Tom suggests that grounds are critical and require rods and radials in most cses. We have average soil conductivity here. For m
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00029.html (9,767 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 19:47:04 -0400
should treat both roughly equal None of that matters anyway Chuck when the pattern of the antenna isn't any good. We know a lot more about antenna patterns and how antennas respond over earth than w
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00030.html (10,092 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:54:11 -0400
I'm sorry, this should say: cloverleaf WITH a highly conductive media...not withOUT. _______________________________________________ Topband mailing list Topband@contesting.com http://lists.contestin
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00032.html (9,419 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Chuck Hutton" <charlesh3@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 20:11:19 -0700
A few replies are inline. Chuck CH: Then why do all the measured plots from the massive Litva and Rook 1976 report and all the Rome AFB data from the 70's all show patterns that match what I said? Do
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00033.html (11,992 bytes)

16. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Missouri Guy, N0TT" <n0tt1@juno.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 03:22:01 +0000
Heh heh... That's absolutely true...I was told that very recently by an OP that experienced that. If a Beverage is placed near or over highly conductive areas like salt water, an ocean beach, and the
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00034.html (9,409 bytes)

17. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Ford Peterson" <ford@cmgate.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:54:46 -0500
...SNIP... ...SNIP... I dunno Don. Fiberglass? (tongue in cheek of course). When I measured between two 8' ground rods 10' apart, they behaved nothing like a piece of wire 10' long. They were definat
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00035.html (11,217 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Chuck Hutton" <charlesh3@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:39:58 -0700
I have a different picture of penetration versus soil types. The usual method for specifying RF peentration is to calculate the value where the field has declined to 1/e where e is the base for natur
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00036.html (9,447 bytes)

19. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 06:46:32 -0400
Litva and Rook 1976 patterns that match data that we can specific? I'm not disageeing with you. What I am saying is it doesn't matter how the wave angle tilts when the antenna has a big wide respons
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00037.html (10,346 bytes)

20. Re: Topband: Two Wire Beverage Query... (score: 1)
Author: "Milt Jensen, N5IA" <n5ia@zia-connection.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 05:37:32 -0700
Charlie, My personal experience at XZ0A was that the Bevs worked extremely well on the island. However, I did try one at a secluded, isolated spot along the shore where in some places at high tide th
/archives//html/Topband/2004-08/msg00039.html (9,249 bytes)


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