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1. Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 09:40:10 -0600
 Has anyone tried a loop like this in the Horizontal plane?   I suppose if one had an AZ mount they could try it from horizontal to Vertical. His flag build was in the July 2015 QST. W0MU ___________
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00000.html (5,929 bytes)

2. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: donovanf@starpower.net
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:15:03 -0400 (EDT)
Hi Mike, A horizontally polarized loop -- or any other horizontally polarized 160 meter antenna -- has extremely poor sensitivity when installed less than about 0.1 wavelenght above the ground. Even
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00001.html (7,993 bytes)

3. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 10:47:41 -0600
Thanks! I think I will still try to build the vertical version to try. A horizontally polarized loop -- or any other horizontally polarized 160 meter antenna -- has extremely poor sensitivity when in
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00002.html (7,945 bytes)

4. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: CUTTER DAVID via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 20:04:52 +0100 (BST)
Drifting the thread slightly: I read an article recently regarding 2 loops of 15ft square separated by 15ft which the author called Loop On Ground, LOG. He claimed good results on receive over a peri
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00003.html (9,197 bytes)

5. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@ieee.org>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 19:55:00 +0000
DuckDuckGo brought up this at the top of its search: http://kk5jy.net/LoG/ Presumably that is what you mean? best wishes, Nick VE7DXR At 19:04 2018-08-01, CUTTER DAVID via Topband wrote: Drifting the
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00004.html (10,205 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 15:15:26 -0500
That's a terrible RX antenna. Did you see the losses?! Minus-forty-something dB on 160. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00005.html (8,209 bytes)

7. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Steve Lawrence via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 12:57:24 -0700
Mike - After many experiments, what I came to understand is that a loop is a loop is a loop. They're all variations on a theme. Ground dependent vs independent. Elevation. Size vs capture area. Need
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00006.html (11,810 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Steve Lawrence via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 12:59:27 -0700
Mike - After many experiments, what I came to understand is that a loop is a loop is a loop. They're all variations on a theme. Ground dependent vs independent. Elevation. Size vs capture area. Need
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00007.html (11,840 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 15:06:09 -0600
Isn't a waller flag in the minus 50's? 73, Mike www.w0btu.com DuckDuckGo brought up this at the top of its search: http://kk5jy.net/LoG/ Presumably that is what you mean? best wishes, Nick VE7DXR At
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00008.html (9,946 bytes)

10. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Carl Luetzelschwab <carlluetzelschwab@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:13:03 -0400
Note that the KK5JY antenna is a single loop, not a double loop as G3UNA referenced. That gain value is in the neighborhood of what a Waller Flag does. Carl K9LA _________________ Topband Reflector A
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00009.html (8,912 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:24:42 -0400
That gain value is in the neighborhood of what a Waller Flag does. However, the Waller Flag is a dual loop that trades off signal for pattern. The LOG simply throws away signal due to attenuation of
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00010.html (9,256 bytes)

12. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@ieee.org>
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2018 21:51:52 +0000
Does the article referenced then not go on to describe a phased array of two LoG's (Figure 7)? Nick VE7DXR However, the Waller Flag is a dual loop that trades off signal for pattern. The LOG simply t
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00011.html (9,372 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Carl Luetzelschwab <carlluetzelschwab@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 18:01:50 -0400
Joe, I agree. But I believe it's gain is very low mostly because it's made up of electrically very small loops. A very small loop has its main lobes in the plane of the loop - not perpendicular to th
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00012.html (10,155 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Mike Waters <mikewate@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 17:09:00 -0500
Thanks for pointing that out. However, I didn't intend to word it the way I did, implying that it was terrible because of its low gain. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com _________________ Topband Reflector Arch
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00013.html (8,752 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: David Cutter via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:32:10 +0100
I am at a loss to know how to model it with any confidence, for wires close to or on the ground. David G3UNA Joe, I agree. But I believe it's gain is very low mostly because it's made up of electrica
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00015.html (10,864 bytes)

16. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Carl Luetzelschwab <carlluetzelschwab@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 07:28:38 -0400
David, The NEC-4.2 engine appears to give very good results with buried and close-to-ground wires (the NEC-4.1 engine compares favorably, too). It is instructive to read N6LF's July/August 2016 QEX a
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00016.html (9,364 bytes)

17. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: David Cutter via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 13:37:13 +0100
tnx I'll look at that David G3UNA David, The NEC-4.2 engine appears to give very good results with buried and close-to-ground wires (the NEC-4.1 engine compares favorably, too). It is instructive to
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00017.html (9,921 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 21:49:28 +0000
But that gain is in the vicinity of small pennants, f;ags and others. I often use smaller loops and flags with a preamp. At 160 and nearby, I believe my preamps (Clifton Labs, ARR etc) have goodenoug
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00028.html (10,500 bytes)

19. Re: Topband: WB6RSE Flag type loop question (score: 1)
Author: Steve Lawrence via Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 20:27:54 -0700
It's much more useful to think of RX loop antennas as having directivity rather than "gain." The full size flag has a rather broad pattern of around +/- 60 degrees so that it can be pointed to improv
/archives//html/Topband/2018-08/msg00029.html (11,439 bytes)


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