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1. Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: Jim Hoge <knowkode@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:08:43 -0800 (PST)
Greetings,   Can I expect any noticable difference using an insulated wire for radials? Theoretically, the velocity factor of the insulation will make the physical length shorter but is a tuned 1/4 w
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00013.html (6,811 bytes)

2. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: Missouri Guy <n0tt1@juno.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 07:12:24 +0000
Jim, It won't make any measurable difference if you use bare or insulated wire for radials above or below ground. The #18 wire will work well for buried radials, but at the base of the antenna be sur
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00022.html (8,519 bytes)

3. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: W8AV@aol.com
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 06:43:37 EST
Jim: When you are burying radials for a vertical antenna, you do not need to tune them. Just make them as long as you can (not to exceed 0.4 wavelengths) and you are done. The 0.4 wavelength number c
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00024.html (7,779 bytes)

4. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: Les Kalmus <w2lk@bk-lk.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:22:14 -0500
The length of radials on the ground doesn't matter except that you need to remember the ground currents are highest nearer to the vertical. Many 50-75 foot radials will be fine, insulated or not. I h
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00026.html (8,285 bytes)

5. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Gene Smar" <ersmar@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 09:36:51 -0500
Jim: Insulated wire is more durable than bare in radial applications. The soil pH is kept away from the (presumed) copper wire inside the insulation so the wire will last longer in all soil types tha
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00027.html (8,785 bytes)

6. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: Herb Schoenbohm <herbs@surfvi.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:10:13 -0400
I use insulated wire radials which after a few months disappear into the grass....I tack down the wires with large spikes along the way with a single turn of the insulated wire. Yet I have always won
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00032.html (8,654 bytes)

7. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:13:05 -0800 (PST)
Hi Goose, Think this holds true if you lay down a hundred or more, but is not the case if you install fewer based on more recent research... 30000 feet will be loads of fun to lay hihi 73 & GL in ARR
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00033.html (8,759 bytes)

8. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Gene Smar" <ersmar@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:37:40 -0500
Herb : I'm not sure you'd ever be able to prove effectiveness one way or another (to ground or not to ground the radials' far ends.) When I installed my radials in 1998, I used large nails to hold th
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00037.html (9,158 bytes)

9. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Tod -ID" <tod@k0to.us>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:21:35 -0700
I guess I have the wrong idea about how the radials of a vertical work. For some reason I thought that they operated as a 'screen' that kept the return currents out of the ground enough so that the "
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00042.html (11,555 bytes)

10. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Rick Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:36:58 -0800
The trouble with this theory is that it predicts that 1/2 wave verticals with no radials, 1/4 wave verticals with a few elevated radials, and ground plane antennas shouldn't work very well. Actual te
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00046.html (8,988 bytes)

11. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Gene Smar" <ersmar@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:32:49 -0500
Todd: I use insulated radials for my (now removed) inverted L and shunt-fed tower on 160M simply because insulated wire lasts longer in my back yard than does bare copper. My first antenna at this QT
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00047.html (11,896 bytes)

12. Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Lee K7TJR" <k7tjr@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:46:39 -0800
It seems to me that if radial wires are required to carry the antennas return RF current we might be concerned about the skin depth of the radial conductors. It also seems to me that if we can keep t
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00053.html (8,833 bytes)

13. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Larry" <lrpmbt@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 07:39:18 -0500
Being on a small lot, I faced a problem of having enough radials to make the Battle Creek Special work. My feedpoint is inside the dog fence with 4 #12 insulated radials going outside the dog enclosu
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00058.html (8,643 bytes)

14. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Tod -ID" <tod@k0to.us>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:22:37 -0700
Thanks for the note Bill. As you say, Physics doesn't cut any special deals with anyone. That of course is the good news delivered simultaneously with the bad news. The way to deal with radials is to
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00068.html (12,995 bytes)

15. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Rick Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:44:10 -0800
power. No, BLE is not still the standard, except maybe at the FCC. Also, Brown's ran out of wire when he reached 113 radials. The FCC later rounded this up to 120. Latter day experts agree that you
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00070.html (10,824 bytes)

16. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 13:53:49 -0500
As far as I can tell with this and other such reports, including the benchmark 1937 work, all the measurements were made at ground level, and would therefore not measure skywave. The ground level me
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00077.html (10,305 bytes)

17. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" <richard@karlquist.com>
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:41:03 -0800
There is a study on skywave signals on verticals that is on my web site. I listened to actual received signals off the air and A/B'ed two antennas. In one sense, this is not as precise as you couldn'
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00079.html (11,633 bytes)

18. Re: Topband: insulated vs:bare radial wires (score: 1)
Author: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:20:46 -0500
I partly agree. There is an aspect of "good enough" on an anecdotal basis. But for circuit components we have completely reliable ohms law and formulas, etc, and for antennas not seriously deprecated
/archives//html/Topband/2009-12/msg00080.html (16,817 bytes)


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