Amps
[Top] [All Lists]

[AMPS] info on mica caps

To: <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: [AMPS] info on mica caps
From: measures@vc.net (Rich Measures)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:24:48 -0700


>
>
>
>----------
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> >Just as a ball park reference, in my hand is a 258 pF 8KV 7A @ 3mHz. It
>> >> >measures 3X3X2 1/4 inches.
>> >> >
>> >> ?  As I understand it, the current handling ability of mica caps 
>> >> decreases above 3MHz.
>> >
>
>Depends on the cap.  At a quick glance,  the curves in the CDE 
>Transmitting Mica Data book indicate that peak current handling occurs 
>NEAR 1 Mhz.  Closer inspection shows that this is true mainly for the 
>larger sizes such as 5000 pf and up (this is a reasonable generalization, 
>but it does change for different models).  For the under 5000 pf sizes 
>(again, in general),  the current handling either increases steadily with 
>frequency up to around 30 Mhz, or it max's. out somewhere between 3 and 10 
>Mhz and stays more or less flat up to 30 Mhz.  In most cases, the current 
>rating is several times what any of us are likely to expose them to.
>
>CDE also tabulates the current data at 0.1, 0.3, 1 and 3 Mhz.  The tabular 
>data alone would suggest that max current handling occurs at 3 Mhz with 
>many of the models, and this perhaps is the data behind  Rich's comment.  
>The curves tell a more complete story.
>
>Separately,  I was impressed with the current handling capabilities of the 
>type CDV16 dipped mica caps.  Fairly small in size, some of these will 
>handle 6 or more amps of RF - perfect for input matching networks.
>
>
thanks for the information, Phil.  .
>
>
>> >> Rich...
>> >
>> >Not according to the data I see in about a half dozen places.
>>
>> ?  got any URLs, Tom?
>>
>> > Many mica capacitors continue to increase in current with frequency, 
>> >depending on the style of construction and value, way up into VHF.
>> >
>> >Multi-layer micas are a very common high current  VHF capacitors.
>>
>> ?  I never saw a mica capacitor that wasn't multi-layer.
>> >
>> >Mica does not become a poor dielectric at 3 GHz, let alone 3 MHz.
>>
>> ?  Who said that it becomes a poor dielectric at 3MHz?  In my collection
>> of mica transmitting caps, current rating is often speced at a few MHz 
>> and/or a few hundreds of kHz.  The info on derating mica above 3MHz came
>> from Lenk at Hiway Sales in Oceanside, California.
>>
>> > .
>> >Especially Ruby Mica, which is used in some of the lowest ESR
>> >capacitors available for microwave.
>>
>> ?   Impressive.  So why isn't ruby mica dielectric used in HV  caps. for
>> HF amps.?
>>
>> -  cheers, Tom
>>
>>
>> Rich...
>>
>> R. L. Measures, 805-386-3734, AG6K, www.vcnet.com/measures
>>
>>
>> --
>> FAQ on WWW:               http://www.contesting.com/ampfaq.html
>> Submissions:              amps@contesting.com
>> Administrative requests:  amps-REQUEST@contesting.com
>> Problems:                 owner-amps@contesting.com
>> Search:                   http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>FAQ on WWW:               http://www.contesting.com/ampfaq.html
>Submissions:              amps@contesting.com
>Administrative requests:  amps-REQUEST@contesting.com
>Problems:                 owner-amps@contesting.com
>Search:                   http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm
>



Rich...

R. L. Measures, 805-386-3734, AG6K, www.vcnet.com/measures  


--
FAQ on WWW:               http://www.contesting.com/ampfaq.html
Submissions:              amps@contesting.com
Administrative requests:  amps-REQUEST@contesting.com
Problems:                 owner-amps@contesting.com
Search:                   http://www.contesting.com/km9p/search.htm


<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>
  • [AMPS] info on mica caps, Rich Measures <=