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Re: [Amps] Components Causing Distortion in Amplifiers

To: "k7fm" <k7fm@teleport.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Components Causing Distortion in Amplifiers
From: Karl-Arne Markström <sm0aom@telia.com>
Reply-to: Karl-Arne Markström <sm0aom@telia.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:00:45 +0100
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"Amperex 8179, which may be similar to the 4-400"

The 8179 or QB5/2000 is actually more of an European 4-1000A.

It has comparable plate voltage and plate dissipation ratings, and is specified 
for
linear amplifier service.

73/

Karl-Arne
SM0AOM

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From: "k7fm" <k7fm@teleport.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 5:24 AM
Subject: [Amps] Components Causing Distortion in Amplifiers


> Someone asked whether components such as capacitors can cause distortion in 
> linear amplifiers.  Somehow the e-mail got side-tracked, but I have some 
> comments in response.  The response is not quite on point, but raises some 
> interesting points.
> 
> The comments are not mine, but those of W2LPC and WA2PDI, both who worked 
> for Amperex at the time they wrote the article.  The article was published 
> in 73 Magazine in May of 1963.  The article is entitled "Low Distortion All 
> Band Linear Kilowatt" and described about the design of an amplifier using a 
> Amperex 8179, which may be similar to the 4-400.   They mentioned all of the 
> normal things, such as regulated screen and bias - but let them finish the 
> story:
> 
> "When the amplifier was first constructed, the distortion was found to be 
> quite bad (about -30 db).  This was caused largely by the fact that the 
> current meters and the circuit breaker coils in the negative leads of the 
> power supplies were not bypassed for audio frequencies, causing an audio 
> voltage to be superimposed on the power suply voltages.  By bypassing the 
> meters and circuit breakers coils with electrolyticcapacitors, the 
> distortion was decreased considerably.
> 
> The distortion was decreased still further by leaving the unused turns on 
> the plate tank coil unshorted when switching from band to band, instead of 
> shorting them as was done when the amplifier was first constructed.
> 
> The 8179 data sheet states that the tube must be operated in a vertical 
> position only.  During testing, the amplifier was operated on its side and 
> it was noted that the distortion figures became slightly degraded, probably 
> caused by misalignment of the control and screen grids due to sagging of the 
> elements when the tube is operated on its side."
> 
> Later in the article, they summarized design considerations for a low 
> distortion amplifier.  In summary, they are:
> 1.  Any impedance in series with the power supplies must be bypassed for 
> audio as well as rf.
> 2.  In grounded grid operation, second harmonics of the driver must be 
> suppressed, normally with a tuned input.
> 3.  The screen and control grid power supplies should be well regulated.
> 4.  The excited distortion should be at least 20 db better than the 
> amplifier in order not to increase the amplifier distortion by more than 1 
> db.  If extra drive power is available reisistive swamping is advised for 
> grounded grid operation.
> 5.  The plate tank coil should be progressive opened instead of shorted when 
> changing bands.
> 
> I brought up these points a number of years ago and someone told me I was 
> nuts for saying that shorting out the turns would affect distortion.  Well, 
> I am not saying that - two employees who worked for Amperex said it.
> The inference is that they had a spectrum analyzer and hard data to support 
> their statements - but I do not know.  Perhaps they were janitors and just 
> made it up.
> 
> I mentioned it, because if Tom is designing the perfect amplifier he at 
> least ought to have the input, and it can be tested easily enough.
> 
> 73,  Colin  K7FM 
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