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From: K3vw@aol.com
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:36:45 -0500 (EST)
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Best deal for computer grade caps ? I found T.C.I. caps on E Bay for about  
$8.00 each ! They are 220 mfd @ 500 DCWV, 550 surge. They are 105 degree C 
caps,  about half size of most and have solder tabs. Buy in bulk for even 
better price.  Have been using them for a couple of years, no failures yet. 
Willy   K3VW
 
 
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: best deal for  Mallory caps? (Carl)
2. Re: best deal for Mallory caps? (Jim  Brown)
3. Re: best deal for Mallory caps? (Jim  Brown)
4. Re: On Behalf of K4BOF (Jim W7RY)
5.  Re: On Behalf of K4BOF (Jim W7RY)
6. Re: best deal for Mallory  caps? (Pete Soper)
7. Re: Arcing 8877 (Rick  Stealey)
8. Re: Arcing 8877  (Carl)


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Message:  1
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:26:31 -0500
From: "Carl"  <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] best deal for Mallory  caps?
To: "Pete Soper" <pete@soper.us>,     <amps@contesting.com>
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Ameritron has a good price on their caps which are  270uF which with 8 is 
sufficient for good filtering. The new ones are half  the height but still 
the computer grade type...about $13 iffn I  remember.

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message -----  
From: "Pete Soper" <pete@soper.us>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:53  PM
Subject: [Amps] best deal for Mallory caps?


>I need  several replacement caps for my Ten-Tec Titan 725, Mallory
>  CGS401T450R5L (long/slim 400mf 450vdc/85c). Newark wants $29 each. Is
>  there a better deal available?
>
> Thanks,
> Pete  AD4L
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Message: 2
Date: Thu,  24 Nov 2011 09:11:03 -0800
From: Jim Brown  <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] best deal for Mallory  caps?
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On 11/23/2011 12:53 PM, Pete Soper  wrote:
> I need several replacement caps for my Ten-Tec Titan 725,  Mallory
> CGS401T450R5L (long/slim 400mf 450vdc/85c). Newark wants $29  each. Is
> there a better deal available?

I think that's about  what I paid about five years ago, and I bought at 
least a dozen. Don't  recall if it was Newark or Allied, but I shopped 
them for  price.

73, Jim  K9YC


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Message: 3
Date: Thu,  24 Nov 2011 09:17:14 -0800
From: Jim Brown  <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] best deal for Mallory  caps?
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On 11/23/2011 12:53 PM, Pete Soper  wrote:
> I need several replacement caps for my Ten-Tec Titan 725,  Mallory
> CGS401T450R5L (long/slim 400mf 450vdc/85c). Newark wants $29  each. Is
> there a better deal available?

Another important  point. It's rare for all of the caps in the series 
string to fail.   Only one gone bad will cause lots of hum.  I use my 
trusty Simpson  260 on the middle Ohms range to read charge and discharge 
current as I  reverse the leads, and compare each cap to the others.  A 
bad one  will have a lot less charge and discharge current.  I have three  
Titans, so I've been through this several times.  Only once when I've  
replaced one has another one come up bad in the string.

73, Jim  K9YC


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Message: 4
Date: Thu,  24 Nov 2011 10:15:59 -0800
From: "Jim W7RY"  <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] On Behalf of K4BOF
To:  "David Jordan" <wa3gin@comcast.net>, "AMPS"  <amps@contesting.com>,
"Bruce Ferratt"  <uglyatc@yahoo.com>
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Here you  go!

http://www.w8ji.com/tl922_mods_parasitic.htm

73
Jim  W7RY


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From:  "David Jordan" <wa3gin@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011  6:20 AM
To: "AMPS" <amps@contesting.com>; "Bruce Ferratt"  <uglyatc@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amps] On Behalf of K4BOF

> I  am looking for some help with the RLM parasitic mods.  I ordered parts 
 
> from Mr. Measures and am seeking pictures of what they look like when  
> completed.  I am NOT looking for the newer style 'hairpin' type  mod.  
Mr. 
> Measures advises against this type of style due to  harmonics.  If anyone 
> has a TL-922A amp with the mods and can  send a decent set of pics, 
please 
> let me know.  Thank you!   73 Bruce K4BOF
>
>
> 73,
> Dave
> wa3gin
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Message: 5
Date: Thu,  24 Nov 2011 10:17:26 -0800
From: "Jim W7RY"  <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] On Behalf of K4BOF
To:  "David Jordan" <wa3gin@comcast.net>, "AMPS"  <amps@contesting.com>,
"Bruce Ferratt"  <uglyatc@yahoo.com>
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Hears another  one:

http://www.w8ji.com/demonstation.htm

73
Jim  W7RY


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From:  "David Jordan" <wa3gin@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011  6:20 AM
To: "AMPS" <amps@contesting.com>; "Bruce Ferratt"  <uglyatc@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amps] On Behalf of K4BOF

> I  am looking for some help with the RLM parasitic mods.  I ordered parts 
 
> from Mr. Measures and am seeking pictures of what they look like when  
> completed.  I am NOT looking for the newer style 'hairpin' type  mod.  
Mr. 
> Measures advises against this type of style due to  harmonics.  If anyone 
> has a TL-922A amp with the mods and can  send a decent set of pics, 
please 
> let me know.  Thank you!   73 Bruce K4BOF
>
>
> 73,
> Dave
> wa3gin
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Message: 6
Date: Thu,  24 Nov 2011 14:07:28 -0500
From: Pete Soper  <pete@soper.us>
Subject: Re: [Amps] best deal for Mallory  caps?
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Thanks to KM1H and K0UYA for the  advice. The form factor of the stock 
caps for the Titan is the killer:  very long and very narrow compared to 
the "usual" for this capacity and  voltage. I'm confident I could make a 
safe outboard "capacitor box" bolted  to the side of the current PS to 
allow more available/affordable  capacitors, but I have to weigh all the 
factors, and $29 each at Newark  may be a better choice. I don't know if 
270uf/8 is sufficient vs 400uf/8  for an amp that can put out 1.5kw with 
the figurative pinky finger of one  hand. So I'm sure I want to stay with 
400uf per capacitor, while also  paying close attention to temperature 
and rated life specs, ESR, etc. This  is why I asked about a better deal 
for *the specific Mallory (CD)  capacitors* before exploring unknown 
territory.

The Digikey price  for these caps is $46 each, if they had them in stock, 
which they don't.  Mouser does have 15 in stock at $81 each. Other 
suppliers I've found all  over the planet have prices around $35 or more.

Anyway, I wanted to  make sure there isn't a golden supplier hiding out.

Regards,
Pete  AD4L


On 11/24/2011 11:26 AM, Carl wrote:
> Ameritron has a  good price on their caps which are 270uF which with 8 
> is sufficient  for good filtering. The new ones are half the height but 
> still the  computer grade type...about $13 iffn I remember.
>
> Carl
>  KM1H
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Soper"  <pete@soper.us>
> To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Sent:  Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:53 PM
> Subject: [Amps] best deal for  Mallory caps?
>
>
>> I need several replacement caps for  my Ten-Tec Titan 725, Mallory
>> CGS401T450R5L (long/slim 400mf  450vdc/85c). Newark wants $29 each. Is
>> there a better deal  available?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Pete  AD4L
>>
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Message:  7
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 01:32:23 +0000
From: Rick Stealey  <rstealey@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Arcing 8877
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Les, Is there anything in the tank  circuit that could be breaking down?
And do you have big diodes from B- to  chassis at the power supply.  My 
understanding is the purpose of them is  to prevent damage to your meters in 
the case of a Plate (or B+) to chassis  short.  You should also have a 20-50 
ohm resistor for fault current  limiting in the B+ lead, right at the filter 
caps.  With these items, a  fault is not supposed to take out the metering, 
just blow the primary fuse  (till you find where the fault is occurring).
I say this, because I have  recently had similar things happening to 
me..........

Rick   K2XT


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Message:  8
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 21:27:32 -0500
From: "Carl"  <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Arcing 8877
To: "Les"  <Listwa@comcast.net>,     <amps@contesting.com>
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The tube is likely OK but the hardware needs a good  examination and 
cleaning...all the way from the tube to the N connector  and dont dismiss 
relays or coax.

Is this being tested on a dummy  load?

Carl
KM1H


----- Original Message ----- 
From:  "Les" <Listwa@comcast.net>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent:  Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:21 PM
Subject: [Amps] Arcing  8877


> Hi All,
>
> I have a 2nd hand 8877   based 144 Mhz amp, built like a rock.  Has worked
> fine for over a  year, then bang. I saw a flash and of course the fuse did
> its  job.  The tube in it was maybe 20 years old.
>
> It took out  the shunt( resistor and diode)   in the Grid and Meter which 
 I
> replaced.  I  figure I would replace the tube since I had  a newer used 
> tube.
> I " burned" it in for about 18 hours with  the filament and fan running 
and
> another 6 hours with the HV on, just  for good luck.
>
> I keyed it and slowly brought the power up,  worked  fine at 5 W and at 
10W
> in I measured 230W on the bird  meter and it flashed again, fuse again.   
I
> replaced the  fuse  and powered it up and again at 10 Watts showing 230W, 
>  but
> the metering was gone and I looked through the vent screen and saw  it 
> arcing
> intermittently  at the age of the fins, above  the Anode strap that goes
> around it.
>
> I am looking for  advise. Easy to fix the meter shunts, but is it a 
problem
> with the  tube(s),  the anode strap is as tight as it goes.... any  
guesses.
>
> 73s
> Les
> W2LPL
>
>
>  Thanks
> Les
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