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Subject: [Amps] 4CX1600B options
From: John Lyles <jtml@losalamos.com>
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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2014 17:24:31 -0600
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I have a Ten Tec Titan II model 416 with a supposedly bad tube, according to the factory. I haven't high potted it yet, and with an ohmmeter I measured clear between elements except there is 1.2 Meg ohm between heater and cathode ring. The 1600 has crossover geometry where the control grid contacts are completely below and inside of the cathode ring. For a 4CX1500B or 1000A with breechlock terminals G1 is between cathode and G2.

It was said (by factory) that this tube blows up the amp. I assume they meant the screen regulator board or bias circuits. This may indicate a hot fault where anode is breaking down to the grid(s). Anyone else experienced this sort of failure with this tube/amp combo? The Titan II used bipolar series regulator, and the later Titan III (4CX800A) used a mosfet, both had shunt resistor of 15K only across G2 to K, for reverse screen current handling. The regulators were only capable of working positive current, with a series diode between them and the shunt R.

Are there any more Svetlana 4CX1600B's available?

I have both a 4CX1000A and 4CX1500B plus SK-800 socket and filament transformer. Cin, Cout and Cgp are the same for all three tubes. Transconductance of the 1600B is highest, followed by 1000A and 1500B.

For cooling, taking an example of 1 kW anode dissipation at > 5000 feet above sea level, estimated air from datasheets:
Eimac 4CX1000A   ~32 cfm, ~0.3" water bp
Eimac 4CX1500B   ~21 cfm, 0.3"
Svet. 4CX1600B    27 cfm, 0.3"

From the constant current curves, the biggest differences are noted. This is indicated by the different cutoff characteristics, where the 4CX1500B requires considerably less negative bias on G1 to cutoff the electron beam. The older Eimac and Svetlana are similar, ~-56 volts for 200-250 mA of Ib with Eb at 3 kV. Eimac 4CX1500B is plotted only with 225 volts of G2, whereas the other tubes are defined for 325 volts.

From the collective wisdome here, I welcome experience/knowledge in converting from a Svetlana to Eimac tetrode in this amp. Or a reasonable source for 4CX1600B. I think conversion to a better screen regulator is needed too. I am not interested in a pair of 4CX800A/GU74b as I already have the bigger tubes and 800s are pricy and become rare as well.

73
John
K5PRO
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