Google "gettering 3-500z's"...the getter is the coating on the plate and
they're meant to run with some color is how it was explained to me...
I have a spare pair kicking around here left over from some project or
other, and no equipment that uses them...no idea if they're any good or
not...contact me off list...
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1. Re: SB220 step start blows fuses (Warren Volz)
2. Re: SB220 step start blows fuses (Jim W7RY)
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:51:28 -0600
From: Warren Volz <warren@warrenvolz.com>
To: amps <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB220 step start blows fuses
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Just to close this out, as various people suspected the QSK circuit was
broken. I ended up replacing 4 components (Q7, Q6, Q4, U1) on the W7RY QSK
board and now the amp is working. I believe that a HV arc took out these
components prior to me (used QSK board).
Thanks everyone for the help!
-Warren KD5YPH
On 07/12/2017 12:40 am, Warren Volz wrote:
> Well I have a major update!
>
> The amp shipped with 2 3-500zs that are "not full output" according to the
seller. Since the amp was in shambles I didn't have a way to test them until
now.
>
> One of the 3-500zs is unmarked and missing the phenolic spacer below the
glass envelope. The other is clearly labeled as a Eimac. I tested each
tonight with the HV plugged in. The unmarked worked without issue but the
Eimac arced right after turning the amp on!
>
> So, I guess I'm in the market for a new 3-500z. Based on what I see
online, there isn't really a way to fix this gassy tube but I'm going to let
it sit with no HV and filament voltage for ~30-60 min to see if that has any
impact.
>
> Tonight I also removed the fan and oiled the bearings + the surrounding
fiber. The fan is a lot louder than I expected, but with the oil it's
slightly quieter.
>
> Thank you all for your help!
>
> -Warren
>
>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Warren Volz <warren@warrenvolz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Again thank you all for the advice and guidance.
>>
>> Replacement fuses showed up today so I'm being a little more
>> adventurous. As multiple people pointed out the dim bulb tester I
>> have as built won't work unless I can find at least one 300W bulb.
>>
>> So, I remove the dim bulb tester and tried each tube in the amp. Good
>> news is that both filaments light up just fine! To me that rules out
>> the filament supply and paints a target on the HV supply as many of
>> you have suggested.
>>
>> The amp as I received it was a pile of parts, and so I have no
>> reference in terms of working/not working prior to my mods. Both the
>> QSK and the
>> RM220 were used pulls off of an auction site. The RM220 is squarely
>> in my sight now since it had a burned out metering resistor when I got
it.
>> When I checked previously the diodes were all ok. Also, all
>> components (caps + resistors) on the filtering board are new.
>>
>> I'll likely try reconnecting the HV primary without the plates
>> connected to see what that does next.
>>
>> -Warren
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:44:52 -0500
From: "Jim W7RY" <jimw7ry@gmail.com>
To: "Warren Volz" <warren@warrenvolz.com>, "amps"
<amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB220 step start blows fuses
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WOOOO HOO!!!
Hard telling what took out all of the semiconductors. Could have been hooked
up wrong at one time too.
Thanks for letting us know and glad you got it all working!
73
Jim W7RY
-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Volz
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 1:51 PM
To: amps
Subject: Re: [Amps] SB220 step start blows fuses
Just to close this out, as various people suspected the QSK circuit was
broken. I ended up replacing 4 components (Q7, Q6, Q4, U1) on the W7RY
QSK board and now the amp is working. I believe that a HV arc took out
these components prior to me (used QSK board).
Thanks everyone for the help!
-Warren KD5YPH
On 07/12/2017 12:40 am, Warren Volz wrote:
> Well I have a major update!
>
> The amp shipped with 2 3-500zs that are "not full output" according to the
> seller. Since the amp was in shambles I didn't have a way to test them
> until now.
>
> One of the 3-500zs is unmarked and missing the phenolic spacer below the
> glass envelope. The other is clearly labeled as a Eimac. I tested each
> tonight with the HV plugged in. The unmarked worked without issue but the
> Eimac arced right after turning the amp on!
>
> So, I guess I'm in the market for a new 3-500z. Based on what I see
> online, there isn't really a way to fix this gassy tube but I'm going to
> let it sit with no HV and filament voltage for ~30-60 min to see if that
> has any impact.
>
> Tonight I also removed the fan and oiled the bearings + the surrounding
> fiber. The fan is a lot louder than I expected, but with the oil it's
> slightly quieter.
>
> Thank you all for your help!
>
> -Warren
>
>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Warren Volz <warren@warrenvolz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Again thank you all for the advice and guidance.
>>
>> Replacement fuses showed up today so I'm being a little more
>> adventurous. As multiple people pointed out the dim bulb tester I have
>> as built won't work unless I can find at least one 300W bulb.
>>
>> So, I remove the dim bulb tester and tried each tube in the amp. Good
>> news is that both filaments light up just fine! To me that rules out the
>> filament supply and paints a target on the HV supply as many of you have
>> suggested.
>>
>> The amp as I received it was a pile of parts, and so I have no reference
>> in terms of working/not working prior to my mods. Both the QSK and the
>> RM220 were used pulls off of an auction site. The RM220 is squarely in
>> my sight now since it had a burned out metering resistor when I got it.
>> When I checked previously the diodes were all ok. Also, all components
>> (caps + resistors) on the filtering board are new.
>>
>> I'll likely try reconnecting the HV primary without the plates connected
>> to see what that does next.
>>
>> -Warren
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