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Re: [Amps] 1:9 un-un for grid driven tetrode

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Subject: Re: [Amps] 1:9 un-un for grid driven tetrode
From: Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <k2vco.vic@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 22:07:38 +0300
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What I did with a 4CX1000A AB1 amplifier was to put a 50 ohm non-inductive resistor from grid to cathode, and feed it through a pi-section lowpass filter (I used 35 MHz as the cutoff). The input capacity of the tube was swamped by the output C of the filter. I had a 1:1 SWR from 160 through 10m. I used the Elsie program that came with an ARRL handbook to design the filter. The coil was just a few turns of #22 wire about 6mm in diameter. I don't recall the capacitor values. It was very easy to do.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
CWops #5
Formerly K2VCO
https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 25/10/2021 20:13, paul@paulbaldock.com wrote:
A much simpler solution would be to use a 50Ohm resistor, no un-un, and more
drive power. I don't know what the tube(s) is you are trying to drive, but
for example a pair of GU74B's would require about 50W drive in to 50Ohms and
give 2KW PEP out.

- Paul KW7Y


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Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2021 9:43 AM
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Subject: [Amps] 1:9 un-un for grid driven tetrode

A buddy is trying to get a 1:9 un-un to work on his grid driven tetrode.
Terminated in a  450 ohm globar,  SWR is  1:1   but only up to aprx  20 mhz.
Above  20 mhz,  it rapidly all goes to hell....reaching  2.5:1   at 29.00
mhz.   ( this on the test bench)

He needs the  1:9  un-un to work from  80-10m.   What's the trick here ?
  What  is the ideal material to wind the trifilar onto ?

Once eventually installed into the amp, a small  coil is wired in parallel
with the 450 ohm globar to  cancel out the XC from the tube,  but that is a
normal procedure, and will not alleviate the high swr issue on the upper
bands.

Jim   VE7RF
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