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Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 266, Issue 2

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Subject: Re: [Amps] Amps Digest, Vol 266, Issue 2
From: Gary Smith <wa6fgi@steeltrails.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 09:35:26 -0800
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Great explanation! 
Thanks for the knowledge and reasoning.
Gary…wa6fgi 
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>   1. Acceptable Swr for a tube amp without retuning.
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>> So could someone please explain or point me towards some books/articles
>> that talk about what happens exactly with voltages/currents at bad SWR?
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> To keep it real simple, depending on coax line length, ( node /
> anti-node),  the max voltage =  sq root of the swr. IE: 2:1  swr.   Max
> voltage = 1.41 x normal (1:1 swr) swr.
> 
> 1500 watts into 50 ohm  dummy load =   5.5 amps into 50 ohms  = 275 Vrms =
> 386 V peak.
> With a 2:1  swr,  rms voltage will rise to  386 vrms.  Peak V will rise to
> 550 V peak.
> 
> Max  rms current  will also be sq root of  the SWR.  Into a DL, that's 5.5
> amps with 1.5 kw and 1:1 swr.
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> With a 2:1 swr, RMS current rises to 7.78 amps.
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> You will not obtain max V  or max I at the same time.
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> It's average current that melts stuff.....and peak V that arcs stuff.
> 
> Depending on power output, with typ tube amps, I would not go much past a
> 2:1  swr.   Maybe 2.5:1  max.
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