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Re: [Antennaware] K9AY Terminated RxLoop wire length

To: "K9AY" <k9ay@k9ay.com>, <antennaware@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Antennaware] K9AY Terminated RxLoop wire length
From: "OZ1AXG Flam" <oz1axg.nospam@dxmail.dk>
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:47:59 +0200
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Hi Gary

Very interresting, 2 dB is not bad for just 2x2 meter (+15%).

When You added wire, did you strictly maintained the upper to lower wire
ratio (8:5), in order to maintain the shape ?  that would elevate the
right/left slightly from ground, or did you maintain the 1.5 meter "above
ground" at the right/left side of the shape as the original design specifies
?

--
OZ1AXG Flam


> Flam,
>
> In 2007, I experimented with larger loops -- same height as the original
> (about 8 meters), but almost 2 meters more on each side. In theory, the
> signal increase should have been 2 dB, which is hard to measure, but I am
> certain that these loops were more sensitive. The improvement was easy to
> hear in the AM broadcast band.
>
> Modeling shows that the F/B will be a little less on 80M, but there are
> other variables such as ground that also affect this, so it may remain
> useful.
>
> It is easy to try the larger loops since you are not changing the height. 
> Go
> ahead and see how much it can help!
>
> 73, Gary
> K9AY
>
>
>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I put together a Terminated half loop, and it is working very well. Its a
>> simple construction with only one loop (east/west) and a home made 
>> control
>> box (no pre-amp, but working on putting one together). Especially the F/B
>> is
>> very impressive!
>>
>> Receive signal level is good on 80 meters. However on 160 meter the 
>> signal
>> is very low.
>>
>> Dimentions of the antenna is 7.80 meters highest point; 0.40 meter lowest
>> point. Sides are 8 meter (upper) plus 5 meter (lowerl) = total 26 meter.
>>
>> I have read on the internet, several people adding wire to increase 
>> signal
>> levels on 160 meter. Adding wire to the current construction can only be
>> done by making the antenna wider.
>>
>> Question: If I where to add 3 meter to each side of the antenna, i.e.10
>> meter (upper) puls 6 meter (lower) side, getting a total length of wire 
>> of
>> 32 meters how would this effect the vertical and horisontal radiation
>> patterns ? (Im a aware that this would compromise 80 meter opertation 
>> with
>> a
>> looplength > 0.3wl)
>>
>> Sincerly
>> OZ1AXG Flam
>>
>>
>>
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