Is this thread ridiculous or what?
Tony N7BG/4
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 1:21 AM
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack
> I was wondering when someone would bring this up.
>
> Let me make this perfectly clear... I have NO problem with people renting
> out contest shacks. Heck, if you have the money to build a super shack, be
> it domestic or rare DX or anywhere in between, and you're not going to be
> using it on particular contest (or other) weekend, why not?
>
> It was just the way this one was offered that was odd... limiting the number
> of ops to rent, severely limiting the directions to the location and not
> releasing them to almost the last minute, requesting a minimal payment to
> cover electricity and an additional amount in order to use the club call,
> virtually guaranteeing a high score, and most importantly, insisting that
> ANYONE who showed up HAD to operate (think about it... this means if the
> site owners and their friends show up, the guys who paid to use the site
> have to step aside? What's the point in renting it then?)
>
> I now have some more information available. The site in question is owned
> by a group of amateurs known as the "South Mountain Group" or "South
> Mountain Project." The site is owned by WA1HHN, was formerly owned by
> K3MQH, and has often run under the call K3EAR in VHF contests. Most or all
> of the owners/operators are members of the Murgas ARC in
> Wilkes-Barre/Scranton PA, and they have run under the K3YTL club call in two
> recent PA QSO Parties.
>
> My understanding from the Murgas club is that the SMG requested more funds
> this year to operate K3YTL from their site than the club was willing to
> allocate. Thus the offer to at least three PA clubs that I know of
> (Wireless Association of South Hills, North Coast Contesters, and Carbon
> ARC) and probably more to rent the site for the Pa QSO Party. And based on
> the phrasing of the entire email, which I summarized in the earlier email,
> it sounds like the SMG ops want to help the renters out at the expensive of
> Murgas (and personally, I'd just as soon stay out of intra-club squabbles,
> if you know what I mean...) But as I understand the PaQP rules, if the SMG
> ops do operate a significant portion of the other club's operations, and are
> not themselves members of that club... well, it muddies the water. In
> short, the "guarantee" of 250K+ points to help out the club score may be
> useless as it may not count. Fortunately, that's an issue for the Pa QSO
> Party folks to unravel, not me!
>
> Enough... no point in beating this further into the ground. Suffice to say,
> a strange situation all the way around, and leave it at that.
>
> 73, ron wn3vaw
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 04:38:18 -0000
> > From: "Randy Thompson, K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
> > Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack
> > To: "Tom Osborne" <w7why@charter.net>, "CQ Contest"
> > <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>
> > Gee, I think the WP2Z station (and others) do the rent-a-station thing
> now.
> > Why would that not be legal?
> >
> > My station available. Make an offer!
> >
> > K5ZD
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Tom Osborne
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 00:36 AM
> > > To: CQ Contest
> > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Ron Notarius" <
> > > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Rent-A-Shack
> > >
> > >
> > > Rent a QTH is one thing. But rent a complete operating station
> > > including operators? With all due respect... if they're shack is so
> > > good, why aren't they operating it themselves as themselves? Am I
> > > missing something here?
> > > ___________________________________________________
> > >
> > > Well, is it legal?? If so, there's a chance to make some money on ham
> > > radio. Set up some stations all around the country and rent them out
> > > for contests. Charge $n.n per Q or something. Get some big guns in
> > > there and make a few bucks off your ham ticket.
> > >
> > > Even better, just hire a bunch of guys to operate for you. Just stay
> > > home and let some dudes operate the contest at a rented station with
> > > rented hams using your call. Connect to the station with ICQ and chat
> > > with them while they are operating for you.
> > >
> > > Does it seem like there is something missing here?
> > > Tom W7wHY
> > >
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