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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The ZQP'S....BIG PICTURE ISSUE with switching to counties
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:35:49 -0500
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Not trying to hand your head (or any other body part to you) but I remember
those county codes.  

I never did see the need for unique county codes for the individual state
contests.  I can see them for multi-state ones, or an "all county" one, but
that's it.  

What was worse, though (and due to no fault of yours) was a few zealots who
started demanding that the individual state QSO parties start adopting your
codes.  A few of those went so far as to demand it.  I recall one character
who thought for some strange reason that I was on the Pa QSO Party committee
(I'm not and never have been) who insisted that the ARRL had developed those
codes and that the ARRL had mandated their use.  (Yes, I know that that's
way far from the truth)

Perhaps one should try approaching things with the carrot, not the stick.

Regardless... it wouldn't be hard to set up a conversion routine that would
take, for example, the 67 "official" abbreviations that Pa QSO uses and
match them up with the 67 matching entries in your 3077 abbreviation table.
Heck, I can think of a half dozen ways to do it right off the top of my head
in dBase, so it can certainly be done in more modern database systems.  So
if someone really wanted to swap back and forth, it could be done.

73

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Robert Chudek - K0RC
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:02 AM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] The ZQP'S....BIG PICTURE ISSUE with switching to
counties

"The issue with switching to counties is the three contests operating this
weekend, the 7QP QSO party... etc... etc... etc..."


You know, the 3077 county codes were developed to eliminate all the 
problems you stated. I am certain to get my head handed to me once again 
to suggest that ALL qso parties adopt that code system developed 
specifically for that reason.

Contesters should be flexible enough to keep or drop the state 
designator if there are potental abbreviation conflicts on any specific 
weekend. Software developers could build the code list ONCE and be done 
with it, instead of the yearly tweaking that always seems to go on.

But I also remember all the non interchangable logs that could not be 
(easily) transported to a different logging system. Then "all of a 
sudden", ADIF was invented. Problem solved.

I applaud your enthusiasm and conviction, but from my vantage point, 
you're trying to pour water uphill.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN


>   We wont change from a state qso party to county because....
>
> A change to ZQP counties will cause the NEQP, 7QP, and IN sponsors to
change
> their log analysis software. It is a lot easier to manage a single QSO
party
> than trying to add a multi-state party into a weekend with three other QSO
> parties.
>
> We can take other peoples logs during the contest and they can take ours
so
> its all good and realized...
>
> The issue with switching to counties is the three contests operating this
> weekend, the 7QP QSO party has the state "first", the NEQP has the state
> "last" in the five character exchange, the NEQP has alternate three
> character abbreviations, the IN contest does not include the state, some
7QP
> counties "end" with state abbreviations from the NEQP region, and some
five
> character NEQP abbreviations begin with state abbreviations from the 7QP
> region.
>
> By not messing with the other county hunters contests, and getting a very
> active coast to coast contest weekend we can be sure to add fuel to the
> overall contests, and allow each ZEROLAND state to do what it already has
in
> place, thats a county qso party.  The ZQP is here to activate the rare
> states that never get to be the focus and the ZQP allows zeroland stations
> to be in the middle and make a ton of contacts all over the world.
>
>
> I hate to keep pointing this out its wearing people down, and i dont mean
to
> do that..
>
> 73
> Joe W0IW
> ZQp STAFF
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