I think that's more a sad commentary on the state of security of most of our
banking & financial institutions than it is an indictment of Logbook of the
World for being "too secure."
73
On 06/06/12, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
I think LOTW went a bit far. I don't need to jump through all those
hoops to trade stocks or check my bank accounts etc. Most browsers have
security built in with encryption. This could be used.
I wonder how many people refuse to use LOTW because of the difficulties
getting going? We certainly do not want to get to point where people
will not submit scores because a system is too difficult or restrictive
to use.
Mike W0MU
W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com
Http://www.w0mu.com
On 6/6/2012 5:18 AM, Yannick DEVOS (XV4Y) wrote:
> Dear Katsuhiro, Michael,
>
> Katsuhiro, you are right this is a serious security flaw in the way the log
> submission are handled.
> It can lead to spoofing (someone use your identity to upload logs) and
> flooding (trying to overload the server).
> However, as Michael stated, this issue is mitigated by the difficulty in
> forging logs that could be really harmful to the whole contest integrity.
> A well designed server will also discard bad crafted logs without too much
> database load.
>
> The only way to have a 100% secure system is the way LotW goes.
> However it is not easy to handle and will increase contest handling costs a
> lot.
>
> If I were a contest server administrator, what I will do is the following :
> - for 95% of the participant, nothing at all just like today
> - optionally, participant who want to secure their log can request an "ID
> token" upon sending one hand written dated and signed scan of their license
> - an additional filed in the Carbrillo format will content this token and it
> will be checked while the log is processed
>
> This is not fully secured as someone can "sniff" the token on the network (it
> is never crypted in the process) or hack the contestant computer and copy it.
> However if someone is serious enough to do this, this means all the security
> on the server and the contestant computer has to be checked, and this raises
> the bar significantly.
> For me, it add a fair level of authentication for a marginal managing cost
> increase.
>
> 73,
> Yan.
> ---
> Yannick DEVOS - XV4Y
> http://xv4y.radioclub.asia/
> http://varc.radioclub.asia/
>
>> I'm not sure this was discussed before, but this reminds me that
>> someone who has malicious intention may submit other station's
>> log to defeat the station after first submission by actual station.
>> There looks no authentication method to verify the station for major
>> contests(please correct me if I am wrong). Complicated method to
>> authenticate the station may lead decreasing the number of log
>> submission, so this may not be applied to all stations. But I think
>> there should be some method to authenticate at least for stations who
>> want to win a prize.
>>
>> Please ignore this message if my concern is baseless fear, the
>> contest sponsors have already taken care of this, or we can trust
>> everybody since we all have good morals.
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