Agree Kelly.... There's nothing worse than replying to a SO2R "run" who
would rather work a few more stations on the "busier" band before
responding to your call...and you know that they can hear you....
73s Dave WN4AFP
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net> wrote:
> Successful SO2R depends on having the proficiency such that those you work
> don't know you're SO2R.
>
> The top ops are pretty seamless. Others are still trying.
>
> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 17, 2017, at 19:08, Charles Harpole <hs0zcw@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Successful SO2R depends on the kindness of S&P operators who will wait
> for
> > the op to get around to the person waiting or who is putting up with
> 'empty
> > CQs' that are just holding frequency. S&P operators are the life blood
> of
> > contests. I think S&P operators should not put up with being used by
> SO2R
> > operations.
> > 73, Charly
> >
> >> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Trent Sampson <vk4ts@outlook.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It is never as simple as SO2R vs SO1R
> >>
> >> Until we all use the same radio and antenna there will be variations
> >>
> >> My fist SO2R setup was a FT101E and a TS820
> >>
> >> This progressed to a pair of FT102 Yaesu's and then to a FT990 and a
> >> FT1000D and finally to a FT2000 and a FT950
> >>
> >> This current pair have a $10 TV Dongle added to the IF to deliver full
> >> spec an capability on both rigs - But an Icom 756 has similar capability
> >> out of the box
> >>
> >> We all have variations in location, equipment ,technical ability -
> >> operator skill that a simple SO2R SO1R comparison is not realistic - a
> good
> >> SO2R op will gain advantage -most of the time.
> >>
> >> The best suggestion I can give, is to strive to have the best station
> you
> >> can and compare your best scores to your own - These are called a
> CONTEST
> >> and not a Participation event - you may not always win a Certificate.
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Trent Sampson
> >> VK4TS
> >> Po Box 275 Mooloolaba QLD 4557
> >> Mobile 0408497550
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >> N2TK, Tony
> >> Sent: Thursday, 17 August 2017 10:30 PM
> >> To: 'Jeff Clarke'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> >> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R
> >>
> >> Jeff,
> >> I have always contested for fun. When it is not fun I will stop.
> >>
> >> I do have to take exception with your statement "If the guys who do SO2R
> >> didn't do it they would still beat you". Too many other factors to make
> a
> >> broad statement like that. And you make the statement "Sure my scores
> were
> >> better when I did SO2R". So by your reckoning SO2R will result in a
> higher
> >> score over a SO1R.
> >>
> >> I still feel SO1R and SO2R should be separate classes.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> N2TK/KP2M
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >> Jeff Clarke
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:58 PM
> >> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R
> >>
> >> All this talk about SO1R vs SO2R doesn't really matter. If the guys who
> do
> >> SO2R didn't do it they would still beat you because they all have a good
> >> station and good operating skills. I never really understood the logic
> for
> >> NAQP that running 100 watts levels the playing field. The type of
> antennas
> >> you are using is what really makes the difference.
> >>
> >> I used to do SO2R but sold all of my stuff this Summer. I was only using
> >> it for a couple contests a year. Sure my scores were better when I did
> SO2R
> >> but I still had plenty of SO1R stations beat me all the time because I
> have
> >> an inferior station. (All wires) It just didn't seem worth the effort
> >> anymore.
> >>
> >> I just do contests for fun now. If I can have fun running some rate I
> will
> >> be on doing that. But if it becomes too much work or I'm not having fun
> I
> >> shut off the radio.
> >>
> >> Truthfully those who have all the toys and outstanding operating skills
> >> always win. Same as it is in any competitive sport. While I would like
> to
> >> see different classes in contests for those of us who aren't as
> fortunate I
> >> doubt it would ever happen.
> >>
> >> Jeff KU8E
> >>
> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid
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