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Re: [CQ-Contest] Clean Sweep - a short history

To: "Bob Shohet, KQ2M" <kq2m@kq2m.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Clean Sweep - a short history
From: John Geiger <af5cc2@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 10:34:06 -0600
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In the 10 meter and 160 contests each of the KH states (Hawaii) or
territories (everything else in the Pacific) each count as separate
multipliers, but in the SS they all count as one.  Not sure I would like to
have each count separately in the SS, as a Clean Sweep would be impossible.

Another interesting thing is that in the ARRL DX contests, I cannot work
Canada, which is a separate, but I can work Alaska and Hawaii, which are US
states!

73 John W5TD

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:19 AM Bob Shohet, KQ2M <kq2m@kq2m.com> wrote:

> “not all Canadian sections are a complete province (think ON) or encompass
> more than a single province/territory (think VE8/VY1/Et al).
>
> Since SS has always used Sections as mults, and since CRRL/RAC continues
> to be organized by Section, then a new Section in either ARRL or in RAC
> will generate a new mult in November SS.”
>
> And there lies part of the inconsistency.  VE8/VY1/VY0 is part of the VE6
> Alberta section according to the RAC website, yet ARRL considers
> VE8/VY1/VY0 as one separate section from VE6 for SS and stateside contests,
> but then also counts that VE8, VY1 and VY0 are THREE separate sections for
> 10 M and (I believe) 160 M contests.  I find that bizarre.  Either:
>
> 1) Be consistent with RAC and don’t count VE8/VY1/VY0 separately (I am
> against that idea),
> 2) Count VE8/VY1/VY0 as ONE section for both SS and 10 M, or
> 3) Count VE8, VY1 and VY0 as THREE separate sections for both SS and 10 M.
>
> What I object to is the ARRL picking and choosing inconsistent criterion
> for determining what constitutes a section within their own group of
> contests.
>
> Counting DC as a separate mult in 10M but not in SS is yet another
> inconsistency.
>
> I like mults – the more the merrier as far as I am concerned.  But let’s
> at least have some consistency of policy as long as the ARRL professes to
> have common rules for the contests that they sponsor.
>
>
> 73
>
>
> Bob, KQ2M
>
>
>
> From: Hans Brakob
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2020 10:00 PM
> To: CQ-Contest
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Clean Sweep - a short history
>
> There is discussion in another thread over a new Section in RAC which
> results in a new mult in ARRL’s November SS weekends.
>
> The reason for this linkage seems not well understood by some.
>
> This linkage stems from the fact that Canada, up until about 40 years ago,
> was a Division of ARRL, with a Division Director and was subdivided into
> Sections just like other Divisions.  Just like some USA sections sometimes
> do not encompass a full state/territory (several states consist of more
> than one section) or a single state/territory (PAC division consists of a
> state, a territory, and some other possessions), not all Canadian sections
> are a complete province (think ON) or encompass more than a single
> province/territory (think VE8/VY1/Et al).
>
> Since SS has always used Sections as mults, and since CRRL/RAC continues
> to be organized by Section, then a new Section in either ARRL or in RAC
> will generate a new mult in November SS.
>
> And all of that aside, why would a contester have angst over more
> multipliers and the obvious opportunity for higher scores?
>
> 73, de Hans, KØHB
> “Just a Boy and his Radio”
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