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Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting

To: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Merging Social Media and Contesting
From: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Reply-to: wa5rtg@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:01:08 -0500
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Live streaming, whether heavily advertised or not, should not be allowed in
my opinion..  This gives stations advantage in making the contact to the
primary benefit of the one who is streaming. Not to mention the fact that
many will come on specifically to hear their own signal via internet.  I
say it should be nipped in the bud and the bud is the live streaming.

73... Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 9:30 AM Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>
wrote:

> Some of you may not be aware of an interesting and different even that
> happened last weekend.
>
> W2RE of well known RHR fame, decided to not only provide live streaming of
> his contesting effort, but tied it into the activity he has been doing
> since early January which is fully integrating the on air DX activity into
> Facebook and youtube channel streaming.  Ray has done a wonderful job of
> integrating social media with HF on air activity as part of promoting RHR
> and DXing in general.  You cant argue that this benefits the hobby in
> general.
>
> However, the rules of the contest state that "contacts cannot be solicited
> by non-amateur means".  Examples are typically given but those examples are
> not exhaustive.  The intent of the rule, I believe, is that you should have
> people calling you by the normal discovery process that all of us use.  Not
> a special method no one else is using.
>
> Ray, to his credit, was not showing his transmit frequency ion the video.
> And I personally believe there was no intention of using this additional
> channel to gain an advantage.  At all.  However, if you look at the
> activity generated on the facebook page - a couple of million hits since
> early January (bravo Ray) - its hard for me to rationalize that there is
> not a direct pick up of Qs based on this parallel activity.  Casuals, which
> are a huge part of running up the Q totals in any major DX contest, may be
> listening to the channel and say, I wonder how loud I am verses these other
> guys Ray is working.  And look up on the cluster to find Ray's frequency
> and give a call to hear themselves.  That is exactly "soliciting a contact
> by non-amateur means".  Not overtly - like give me a call if you are
> watching - but by "advertising" and letting the rest happen on its own.
>
> I think it is a wonderful idea on its own.  But it does not compete fairly
> with those just playing the game by the rules as intended.
>
> CQ WW used to have an unlimited class, maybe they still do.  Maybe we need
> an unlimited class to promote this "multi channel" contesting.  But mixing
> it up with normal contesting just doesn't feel right to me.
>
> What do others think?
>
> Ed  N1UR
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