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Re: [CQ-Contest] Zero Beat packet pileups-a solution ! QZB

To: <rjairam@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Zero Beat packet pileups-a solution ! QZB
From: "Mike Smith VE9AA" <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 22:02:22 -0400
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Respectfully disagree Ria.

I don't use assistance much (maybe 20% of the time) but if I want to listen to 
my stations I'll be calling all at (let's say) 600Hz sidetone, I don't want to 
have to hear 550Hz one time and 650Hz another time (for example_)
I'd like them all to be on the exact same freq.  I can set my RIT at some 
specific amount if I find they are all coming in a little low or high.

It would be NICE if N1MMLogger plus and other loggers were to control your XIT 
by some small offset, rather than to make it so every spot sounded different. 
Given the variety of rigs and CAT commands, I think this feature may be a ways 
out however.

Just my opinion and my reason for not wanting it "locked and not be able to be 
disabled"

You sure are opinionated !

Mike VE9AA

Mike, Coreen & Corey
Keswick Ridge, NB

-----Original Message-----
From: rjairam@gmail.com [mailto:rjairam@gmail.com] 
Sent: December 1, 2020 9:31 PM
To: Mike Smith VE9AA
Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Zero Beat packet pileups-a solution ! QZB

I thought this was a pretty old feature. But it's a good one. And it
should be locked and not able to be disabled. There is absolutely no
good reason to disable this. Use your vfo knob if you want to zero
beat.

73
Ria, N2RJ

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 5:37 PM Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>
> A relatively new phenomenon has emerged more prevalently in contesting on CW
> in the last few years.
>
>
>
> I think in part to the RBN (which I am not knocking, as I benefit from it
> just like the rest of my CW brethren),.
>
>
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> Namely, small 'packet pileups' ALL ZERO beat on your running frequency.
> click click click.
>
>
>
> So, the N1MMLoggerPlus Dev team recognized this a couple years ago and now
> has an option to randomly offset spots when "clicking on spots". Awesome.
> Smart guys, that crew. Not everyone who runs N1MM uses this feature however.
>
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> I don't know if other loggers do this, but maybe or maybe in the future?
>
>
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> For those that don't know to keep tweaking their XIT around or to randomize
> spots in N1MMLoggerPlus
>
> I propose a new Q signal used only in contesting, namely "QZB" which can
> mean anything from, "please don't zero beat me like the other 10 guys
> calling" or "turn on your XIT please" or anything to that effect.
>
>
>
> I know there are guys out there that can do 5000-10000 Q's per weekend and
> not be bothered with a zero beat pileup, but for us mere mortals not in a
> rare location with the benefit of always having MANY callers, (some louder,
> some keen to the ways of the XIT control) then we need another way to
> instruct the (smallish) pileup that it sounds like one tone.  I tried ?, I
> tried AGN, I even tried "XIT" once.and lo and behold it actually
> worked---once.  Maybe I got lucky with a guy that just wandered by or
> someone who knew what it was.  I dunno.
>
>
>
> I tried everything I could think of, and nothing really worked.  Always the
> same solid tone.  More callers always solved the problem, but a VE9 is not
> exactly rare in CQWW, thus the issue.  I am sure every CDN,  USA and a lot
> of EU stations were in the same boat, save the Zone 2 lads..they're pretty
> rare.
>
>
>
> I was so relieved when a superstation called in, overpowering the pileup, or
> others joined in and we'd get those folks that would know to call 40Hz high
> (or low) and then I could work them and move on.
>
>
>
> So, QZB..remember it, use it..(free of charge of course).now we have to
> alert CQ, ARRL, WAE, RDX, NAQP to this new Q-code.  Who will get the word
> out?
>
>
>
> No, it's not April 1rst !
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>
>
> CU (all of a sudden) in the next one ;-D
>
>
>
> Mike VE9AA "5"...or "NB"
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> Mike, Coreen & Corey
>
> Keswick Ridge, NB
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>
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