Actually, as it turns out, it's probably me who was making an assumption not
true. :-) I didn't realize that Jim had moved to California, so it would have
been another consultant that was involved, also a paid gun. Lets just say that
he is not quite the boy scout that Brian is. He is capable of finding
power-line noises, using the correct equipment, but he has a direct
people-skills approach that takes a bit of getting used to.
In most areas, though, the local help is indeed volunteer.
73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Laboratory Manager
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111
Tel: 860-594-0318
Email: W1RFI@arrl.org
________________________________
From: Hare, Ed W1RFI [mailto:w1rfi@arrl.org]
Sent: Thu 9/8/2011 9:40 AM
To: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] UPDATE: New annoying noise just started
You are making an assumption that is probably not true, Jim. Although ARRL has
hired (almost pro bono, by consultant rates) people to go out and do some
power-line work, such as the consultant whose abilities and social skills you
criticized, the only times we do that are those instances where we feel there
is some national precedent, or important information to be gathered. I don't
know which of the two cases we have send Brian Cramer out to look at in your
area that you are discussing. One involved a windmill and the other, I believe,
was a conventional gap-noise case. I know Brian well, and he is one of the
kindest people who can't even bring himself to cuss most of the time. I just
can't envision him acting the way you described, no matter how hard I press my
imagagination..
In most areas of the country, there are no ARRL "RFI" investigators. Each
section has a Technical Coordinator and typically one or more Technical
Specialists to help deal with all types of technical matters in the section.
It has never been the job of these unpaid volunteers to travel sometimes 100
miles or more in a large section to diagnose and troubleshoot power-line cases
in person, sometimes repeatedly. Although some work can be accomplished in
power-line cases, trying to sort out mulitple noise sources, some of which may
be caused by power-company equipment and some of which may not, without the
time-domain signature techniques used by competent power-line investigators, so
there is generally a very significant limitation of what a volunteer can
accomplish.
You may have your own standards for what you say about others, Jim, but I don't
know enough about the case in question to know whether Brian was truly
condescending or whether "condescening" is another way of saying that he tried
to tell your friend something that your friend didn't believe to be true.
Generally, we have sent out our paid guns only in those cases where the amateur
is not as able as your friend is described to be. I am curious as to why, if
he has worked extensively with the power company, he asked ARRL to send someone
to assist. I am also surprised that he didn't turn to you to have you come out
and diagnose the problem for him.
Please have your friend contact me so we can discuss the conduct of the person
who we sent out to help him. I'd be curious as to which case and how it
ultimately turned out.
73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI
ARRL Laboratory Manager
225 Main St
Newington, CT 06111
Tel: 860-594-0318
Email: W1RFI@arrl.org
________________________________
From: Jim Brown [mailto:jim@audiosystemsgroup.com]
Sent: Wed 9/7/2011 5:10 PM
To: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] UPDATE: New annoying noise just started
On 9/7/2011 1:22 PM, Brendan Minish wrote:
> It Seems to me that It's not appropriate to have a go at the ARRL's EMC
> volunteers
You are making an assumption that is probably not true -- it is my
understanding that ARRL DOES hire and pay people to address power
company noise issues. One of them ended up in our area to help a local
ham who happens to be a very good EE, and who has worked extensively
with the power company people to solve RFI issues. He found the ARRL
person quite condescending and not very helpful.
73, Jim K9YC
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