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Re: [RFI] Leased Solar Panels: Operator Responsibility?

To: "Dave Cole (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Leased Solar Panels: Operator Responsibility?
From: Mike Kirkland <radio.ns6q@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 18:52:02 -0800
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
Two on-site visits by an FCC enforcement agent that verified the
interference. Notice of violation written to SolarCity and solaredge.
Notice of violation disappeared and was never published in the federal
registry.

I don't think this is an issue of accurate reporting.

I think this is an issue of money and power.

Basic law of nature them big, you small.

On Nov 14, 2017 6:47 PM, "Dave Cole (NK7Z)" <dave@nk7z.net> wrote:

> Respectfully, has everyone reporting RFI to the FCC done their homework?
> Please don't get the idea I am criticizing here, I am not, just adding a
> bit more information to the discussion.
>
> Things added to your RFI log like everyone you have spoken too, what you
> said, what they said, their names, signal reports,  any recordings, the
> exact process used to pin things down to the location etc., presented to
> the FCC in clean, clear written form.  Anything less than that and the
> process slows...
>
> I had a few issues with grow operations over the years, and the FCC has
> been johnny-on-the spot to send a letter(s) to the offender(s).  In both
> cases, the issue resolved instantly after the letter.
>
> I spent a lot of time in each case documenting every step, (around a year
> on one case), doing everything as if it were going to court, (which
> thankfully it did not), treating every step like I was at work, not doing
> my hobby...  In short being as unemotional as possible, and as professional
> as possible.
>
> The expectation is on us as Amateur Operators to document things in a way
> the FCC can use.  Neither the FCC, or the ARRL is going to do this for us.
>
> It may not be right, and it may not be how all of us want it, but it is
> the way it is...  If you want action from the FCC you have to make it easy
> for the FCC to enforce.
>
> Again, I am not criticizing anyone, or anything that has happened here,
> just offering some thoughts.
>
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave
> NK7Z
> http://www.nk7z.net
>
> On 11/14/2017 05:51 PM, dalej wrote:
>
>> Well, it appears there is no authority.  These companies have the free
>> run to do what ever they want and nobody is going to stop them except bad
>> publicity and that is not easy unless it’s airbag failures in automobiles,
>> even then it’s  going to take a long time for resolutions.
>>
>> This is sort of like anything goes.  Nobody is in charge.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Dale j.
>>
>>
>> On 14, Nov 2017, at 19:45, Mike Kirkland <radio.ns6q@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have a S9 + noise level across the entire VHF band caused by a
>> solaredge installation. I haven't looked at HF yet but I'm not sure I want
>> to.
>>
>> Part 15 seems really clear but that doesn't seem to make any difference
>> to solar Edge.
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2017 5:29 PM, "dalej" <dj2001x@comcast.net <mailto:
>> dj2001x@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> Then who may I ask has authority over such matters??
>>
>> Dale j.
>>
>>
>> On 14, Nov 2017, at 18:06, chuck.gooden <chuck.gooden@comcast.net
>> <mailto:chuck.gooden@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> If I am recalling correctly, the Fcc does not include any specifications
>> for radiated emissions below 30 mhz and leave it to "well engineering
>> practice."  But that is never defined.
>> Chuck Gooden - K9LC
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: dalej <dj2001x@comcast.net <mailto:dj2001x@comcast.net>>
>> Date: 11/14/2017  5:48 PM  (GMT-06:00)
>> To: Randy Standke <r55stan@gmail.com <mailto:r55stan@gmail.com>>
>> Cc: rfi@contesting.com <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RFI] Leased Solar Panels: Operator Responsibility?
>>
>> Wondering what they are going to knock down from S9+40 to what, nothing
>> or something less than?
>>
>> Also wondering if the FCC is kept informed of this?
>>
>> Dale j. K9VUJ
>>
>>
>> On 14, Nov 2017, at 17:14, Randy Standke <r55stan@gmail.com <mailto:
>> r55stan@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Your spectrum plots look just like SolarEdge RFI does.
>>
>> I just met with a SolarEdge engineer.  His contact information is Tefford
>> Reed <Tefford.Reed@solaredge.com <mailto:Tefford.Reed@solaredge.com>>.
>> They are working on several houses surrounding a ham in Poway, CA (who has
>> S9 +40dB RFI from the new SolarEdge systems that just went in near him).
>> They plan to correct the SolarEdge installations near me in two weeks.  It
>> is great to finally see some activity from them.  Tefford told me to ask
>> hams with SolarEdge RFI to contact him.
>>
>> Randy KQ6RS
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tony [mailto:dxdx@optonline.net <mailto:dxdx@optonline.net>]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 11:50 AM
>> To: Randy Standke <r55stan@gmail.com <mailto:r55stan@gmail.com>>;
>> rfi@contesting.com <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RFI] Leased Solar Panels: Operator Responsibility?
>>
>> Randy:
>>
>>> In this case the solar panels could be covered with dark tarps to stop
>>> their interference.  They can stay covered until SolarEdge comes out
>>> and fixes that system. Randy KQ6RS
>>>
>>
>> The tarp solution should work. My neighbors SolarEge system goes quiet at
>> night when the panels are inactive. The attached screenshots show the
>> difference between the daytime RFI noise level and the nighttime noise
>> level.
>>
>> Tony -K2MO
>>
>>
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