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Re: [RTTY] Fw: [illinoisdigitalham] ALE Sounding. What is itandhowdoes i

To: "Ron Kolarik" <rkolarik@neb.rr.com>, <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Fw: [illinoisdigitalham] ALE Sounding. What is itandhowdoes it work?
From: "Jack West XP" <w7ld@theriver.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:22:45 -0800
List-post: <mailto:rtty@contesting.com>
Thanks Ron,

I just went to the Webb site and listened to the ALE example.
That is it!  Its an ALE call we hear.

73
de Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Kolarik" <rkolarik@neb.rr.com>
To: "Jack West XP" <w7ld@theriver.com>; <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Fw: [illinoisdigitalham] ALE Sounding. What is it 
andhowdoes it work?


> If you want to hear a sound clip of ALE try here,
> http://www.kb9ukd.com/digital/
> One of many sites with digital mode clips.
> 
> 73,
> Ron  K0IDT
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack West XP" <w7ld@theriver.com>
> To: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@earthlink.net>; <rtty@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Fw: [illinoisdigitalham] ALE Sounding. What is it andhow
> does it work?
> 
> 
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Although I have heard the term ALE mentioned in ham rqdio, I had no idea
> what it was.
>> One of the listed "calling frequencies" falls very close to our RTTY
> "RATTS NET" frequency
>> which we hold each week night.  This net has been active continuously
> since 1948 (we
>> think)
>>
>> Every now and then this strong, weird, digital, signal comes on and
> obliterates our
>> transmissions.
>> Not often, but consistently.  We have not been able to figure out what it
> was.  I have a
>> strong idea it is one of these ALE calls.
>>
>> The problem lies near 3.596 Mhz. (an ALE frequency)
>>
>> 73
>> de Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@earthlink.net>
>> To: <rtty@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:08 AM
>> Subject: [RTTY] Fw: [illinoisdigitalham] ALE Sounding. What is it and how
> does it work?
>>
>>
>> >
>> > You guys will get a kick out of this...  I posted a message to the
> IllinoisDigitalHam
>> > group at Yahoo groups calling the "soundings" by ALE (Automated Link
> Establishment)
>> > stations illegal one-way transmissions, and this is the response from
> our good friend
>> > Bonnie Crystal, KQ6XA.  I think you'll all agree that it simply defies
> logic...
>> >
>> > Have a box of tissues handy - you'll be laughing 'til you cry!
>> >
>> >
>> > (BTW, I forwarded her explanation to Chuck Skolaut at the ARRL
> Regulatory Information
>> > service for his opinion, so I can post an authoritative response to her
> BS)
>> >
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > George, KA3HSW
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Forwarded Message-----
>> >>From: expeditionradio <expeditionradio@yahoo.com>
>> >>Sent: Jan 8, 2008 5:34 PM
>> >>To: illinoisdigitalham@yahoogroups.com
>> >>Subject: [illinoisdigitalham] ALE Sounding. What is it and how does it
> work?
>> >>
>> >>Here is some info about ALE sounding and how it works.
>> >>
>> >>What is an ALE sounding?
>> >>In ham radio, ALE sounding is simply a station ID.
>> >>Only the callsign is sent, example "This is AA1BB".
>> >>Sounding is ALE jargon for "Station ID".
>> >>
>> >>What is the purpose of ALE sounding?
>> >>The ID is transmitted for the purpose of establishing
>> >>and maintaining communications with other stations
>> >>and to meet the station identification requirements
>> >>of ham radio rules and regulations. Sounding may
>> >>also be part of a selective calling process.
>> >>
>> >>How does ALE fit in the various ham radio rules?
>> >>How ALE sounding is applied to the different rules of
>> >>various countries depends upon that country. Under USA's
>> >>FCC rules, ALE sounding is a station ID and a communication.
>> >>
>> >>ALE sounding is not "beaconing".
>> >>ALE stations are not sending one-way transmissions like
>> >>a beacon does. All the ALE stations are transmitting and
>> >>receiving communications with all the other ALE stations
>> >>in communication with each other.
>> >>
>> >>What frequencies are soundings used by hams?
>> >>In ham-friendly ALE, part of the guidelines for
>> >>repetitive soundings is to transmit on "pilot channels".
>> >>Pilot channels are ALE jargon for a designated calling
>> >>frequency, usually only one channel per band. The pilot
>> >>channels are within a segment of the HF bands that are
>> >>designated for automatic operation by the national bandplans
>> >>or the IARU Region bandplans, depending upon which applies.
>> >>
>> >>Ham Radio ALE Pilot Channel Frequencies
>> >>
>> >>Freq kHz SSB INTERNATIONAL REGION - AREA
>> >>3596.0 USB NORTH AMERICA - SOUTH AMERICA
>> >>3617.0 USB EUROPE-AFRICA-RUSSIA-MIDEAST
>> >>3626.0 USB ASIA - AUS - NZ - PACIFIC
>> >>7040.5 USB EUROPE-AFRICA-RUSSIA-MIDEAST-S.AMERICA
>> >>7102.0 USB NORTH AMERICA - PACIFIC - ATLANTIC
>> >>7185.5 USB AUSTRALIA
>> >>10145.5 USB GLOBAL
>> >>14109.5 USB GLOBAL
>> >>18106.0 USB GLOBAL
>> >>18117.5 USB EUROPE-AFRICA-RUSSIA-MIDEAST
>> >>21096.0 USB GLOBAL
>> >>21116.0 USB EUROPE-AFRICA-RUSSIA-MIDEAST
>> >>24926.0 USB GLOBAL
>> >>28146.0 USB GLOBAL
>> >>28312.5 USB EUROPE-AFRICA-RUSSIA-MIDEAST
>> >>
>> >>Amateur Radio Global High Frequency Network (HFN)
>> >>The Amateur Radio Global ALE High Frequency Network
>> >>is a group of volunteer operators who have automatically
>> >>controlled data stations on the ALE Pilot Channels.
>> >>These are known as HFN Pilot Stations, and they provide
>> >>interconnect texting services and HF-to-HF Relay services.
>> >>The long term objective is to be interoperable with as
>> >>many different types of systems as possible. The primary
>> >>purpose of the HFN is to provide emergency and disaster
>> >>relief 24/7/365 communications. When not in use for the
>> >>primary purpose, hams may access any of the HFN stations
>> >>for normal use. Another secondary aspect of the
>> >>HFN stations is that they provide a continuous feed
>> >>to the internet, reporting all other ALE stations they
>> >>receive. This includes soundings and all other types of
>> >>ALE calls. These reports get logged into a permanent
>> >>database, and are visible on "ALE Channel ZERO".
>> >>http://hflink.net/qso
>> >>
>> >>Many other ham radio ALE operators are transmitting
>> >>soundings on the ALE pilot channels. The more operators
>> >>who are active on ALE, the better everyone is able
>> >>to connect with each other.
>> >>
>> >>The Ham Radio ALE Guidelines are included below in this
>> >>message. You can get more info about ALE and sounding
>> >>on the web at:
>> >>http://www.hflink.com/sounding/
>> >>
>> >>73---Bonnie KQ6XA
>> >>
>> >>HAM RADIO SOUNDING INFORMATION
>> >>
>> >>What is Sounding?
>> >>In Amateur Radio ALE, a sounding is simply a 10 second ALE
>> >>transmission of your callsign (station identification). A sounding is
>> >>different from a beacon because the ALE station uses 2 way
>> >>communications; and the ALE sounding transmission is part of a
>> >>selective calling process for calling and actively maintaining
>> >>communication with other stations in the global ham radio ALE net and
>> >>individually.
>> >>
>> >>Why are Soundings Used?
>> >>The reception and communication through soundings enables other ALE
>> >>stations to know which frequencies or bands your station is active on.
>> >>When you first turn on your transceiver, you can send some soundings
>> >>so that other stations will copy your transmissions, and then may
>> >>selectively call you on the best channel, using the minimum number of
>> >>call attempts. The scanning ALE receiver listens to the soundings of
>> >>other stations each time they are heard and stores them in memory with
>> >>channels and times.
>> >>
>> >>How Are Soundings Transmitted?
>> >>Soundings can be manually transmitted, or set by the operator to
>> >>transmit repetitive soundings every hour. Usually, if repetitive
>> >>soundings are set, when the ALE controller or radio is first turned on
>> >>then there is a delay of a few minutes before the first soundings are
>> >>transmitted.
>> >>
>> >>Ham-Friendly ALE Soundings
>> >>In the ham radio ALE network, there are Pilot Stations in different
>> >>areas of the world that send soundings 24/7. This system transmits
>> >>sounding only on the Pilot Channels in the automatic station
>> >>sub-bands, and this strategy forms part of the basis of ham-friendly
> ALE.
>> >>
>> >>ALE Sounding Guidelines for Amateur Radio
>> >>
>> >>1. As an Amateur Radio Operator, you are responsible for all
>> >>transmissions of your station.
>> >>
>> >>2. Before sending soundings, or any transmission, listen carefully  to
>> >>all your transmitting channels with your receiver. Avoid interference.
>> >>
>> >>3. Sounding is not CQ. If you want to call CQ, use the HFL or QRZ
> netcall.
>> >>
>> >>4. Manual or attended soundings may be transmitted on any ALE channel.
>> >>
>> >>5. For repetitive sounding, program your ALE to sound only on the
>> >>designated Pilot Channels marked PILOT in the Amateur Radio ALE
>> >>Channel List, for your IARU/ITU Region, and within your license. There
>> >>is one Pilot Channel per ham band in each Region.
>> >>
>> >>6. Program your ALE controller to use TWS Sound if possible. Using TWS
>> >>Sound increases the efficiency of ALE nets. Please DO NOT use This Is
>> >>Sound (TIS) on the ham bands.
>> >>
>> >>7. The optimum duration of a sounding transmission is approximately 10
>> >>to 15 seconds. Test and verify your sounding transmission duration
>> >>with your watch. A sounding transmission should NEVER be longer than
>> >>30 seconds!
>> >>
>> >>8. The optimum repetitive sounding on a channel is about once every 60
>> >>minutes. Please DO NOT sound repetitively on a channel more than 2
>> >>times per hour.
>> >>
>> >>9. The optimum scan rate is 1 or 2 channels per second. If you scan
>> >>more than 10 channels, use 2 channels per second.
>> >>
>> >>10. Check your transmitter operation and antenna system SWR regularly
>> >>on every channel in your scan group!
>> >>
>> >>11. Take care in programming your ALE controller (software) and
>> >>transceiver. Test it carefully and verify it for proper operation on a
>> >>dummy load before connecting your antenna.
>> >>
>> >>12.  Use the Polite or Voice Detect or Busy Detect feature of your ALE.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>===END===
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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