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[TenTec] Omni VI plus - noise & INRAD filters

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Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI plus - noise & INRAD filters
From: Grins" <Grins@interconnect.net (Grins)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 15:15:28 -0500
Sorta makes me wonder if the front end of that Drake TR-7 is in need or
alignment or repair...

73/Mike K5AWI
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From: Jim Reid <jreid@aloha.net>
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Date: Friday, July 23, 1999 15:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI plus - noise & INRAD filters


>
>Aloha Yuri,  You wrote,  in part:
>
>> Procedure to verify this is: turn your LP and DSP off, disconnect the
>> antenna, turn your RF gain full up: see if you will hear high pitched
>> hiss/noise from audio.
>
>> On my Omni VI+ this happens when I turn my RF gain past 3 o'clock.
>>
>> Let me know if you get the noise or not.
>
>Yes,  Yuri,  I do get the noise,  whether the antenna input
>terminal to the Omni VI+ is left "open" or terminated in
>50 ohms.  BTW,  the S-meter reads zero deflection.  And,
>yes,  perhaps even in the background,  below or at the level of
>rigs RF stage internally generated noise,  I can hear
>a faint   "whine".  But read on.
>
>Now,  if I connect my 10 meter beam,  a dead band this
>morning in KH6 land,  the noise level output increases
>quite noticeably,  and the S-meter reads 1.5;  perhaps due
>to the  very high x-rays flux coming from the Sun these past
> hours;  actually began some 20 hours or so ago.
>
>In fact,  at this moment as I make this measurement,  the
>x-ray flux has nearly reached M-class level,  at
>1949 UTC,  the x-rays are at C9.9 level!  Yesterday,
>at this time,  about when I was reporting no X band noise
>deflection on my Omni S-meter,  the x-ray flux was over
>an order of magnitude lower,  in fact about 13 dB lower!!
>
>Not surprising then that I have S-meter noise deflection
>now,  hi.
>
>What you are hearing with your RF gain up,  and the antenna
>disconnected,  is the noise generated in your  front end RF
>stages of the Omni.  But,  so what,  as soon as you connect
>to the real world,  via your antenna,  you hear a much higher
>real world noise environment, which overwhelms your
>RF stages internally generated noise  and that very weak
>"whine" tone you hear.  It is gone with the antenna bringing
>in all the real "band" noise.
>
>And of course,  going to lower bands,  the back ground noise
>from any of my other antennas is higher yet:  S 2.2 on 21290,
>for example.
>
>BTW,  if you repeat these tests,  you MUST use an antenna
>resonant at your test frequency.  That is it must be very
>close to 50 ohms pure R,  or 1.1 or so vswr;  otherwise,
>you will not get the solar and galactic noise matched into
>your receiver.  That is why a 40 meter antenna used on
>10 meters seems so quiet!  It is,  because it is coupling
>neither much signal nor noise into the 10 meter tuned
>circuits,  hi.
>
>Oops,  just made another interesting "discovery".  My beam is
>pointed almost exactly to the Sun's present azimuth direction
>from Kauai just now:  Sun at 85 degrees azimuth,  beam at
>about 60 degrees,  toward the US mainland from out here.
>And if I rotate the beam 90 degrees,  the S-meter deflection
>drops a unit!  So,  QED,  there is more noise from the Sun today.
>
>I sure would not be concerned in real operation with the Omni
>about the noise level I see coming from the internal circuitry.
>There is a LOT more coming from the antenna operating
>within any of our HF bands.
>
>73,  Jim,  KH7M
>
>
>
>
>
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