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Subject: [TenTec] Why Ethernet?
From: wn3vaw@fyi.net (Ron Notarius WN3VAW)
Date: Sun Jun 1 21:15:47 2003
When the Kachina was first introduced at Dayton a few years ago (remember
those billboard ads along the highway into & out of town?) I was very
impressed by the radio, but disappointed that the control was via RS232.  I
spoke to someone (sales/management type) at the Kachina booth about this,
and he told me the reasoning (at the time) was that so few computers came
Ethernet-ready that they thought RS232 would be a more universal method of
interfacing... but that he'd bring it to the attention of the engineering
group when they started work on the next one.

Which obviously never happened.

USB may be many things, but it's still a serial port (think not?  what does
the "S" stand for again?), and Firewire has never caught on (to date),
which, granted, may change in the future.  Still, I'm with DK on this one --
if you're going to update the interface port, moving up to an Ethernet of
some flavor (be it 10Base, 100Base, 1 Gig, or 10/100) makes a lot of sense.
And unlike USB or Firewire, adding Ethernet to an existing older
architecture PC, or a Mac or whatever, is relatively cheap & easy.

FWIW, if my opinion is ever asked (hah! I know better!) by the Powers That
Be, I say that the next generation Pegasus, Jupiter, Argonaut, 6N2 and/or
Orion have a 10/100 Base Ethernet port added for remote control purposes...
with the added capability of inputing the appropriate TCP/IP information in
from the keyboard, which may seem like a no-brainer but can be easily
overlooked sometimes.

(And sorry, I just can't picture the next obvious Roman numberal tacked on
to the Jupiter... too much of a SciFi background, and being one of the ones
to crack the obvious bad pun here doesn't help!  Just promise me that none
of the Jupiter engineering team are named Robinson...)

73, ron wn3vaw

AJ:  "Did you ever hear of Evel Kneival?"
Lev:  "I never saw Star Wars"

-- Armageddon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Kamp, KW0D" <kw0d@netexpress.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Why Ethernet?


Pete wrote:
>I certainly agree it's about time to change to something besides an RS232
>port  ... <snip> >So I would prefer either a regular USB or Firewire port
on a rig. <snip> ...far  more confusors come with USB/Firewire than network
>ports these days.


If I were to spec out a new rig, I'd prefer 10/100 Ethernet interface over
anything else.  New computers essentially all come with 10/100 interface
ports, and are ready to connect to TCP-IP.  A large proportion of computer
buyers these days connects to broadband internet services through either a
cable-modem, ISDN, DSL, or wireless services, all which use Ethernet.  I'm
odd, in that I use dial-up, however, all my computers (17 of 'em) are
networked, and I have a router that performs dial-up service for all
machines on the network.

The nice thing about Ethernet, is that all the goofy problems which occur
with USB and Firewire have long-since been solved... no hardware issues, no
problems with wiring (make your own CAT5 T568 cable), no problems with
hubs, bridges, or routers, no protocol issues, no software complications.
TCP-IP is totally published, extremely standardized, and hardware is
CHEEAP.  USB and Firewire can operate down a wire 10-20' or so, mebbie
farther... Ethernet using TCP-IP can be anywhere... a foot away, or halfway
around the world.  Got a 'LINK' light at both ends?  that means Ethernet is
working.  No special drivers necessary.

Best of all, absolutely anything can be sent... you can stream audio in
both directions, send and recieve control data... whatever you like, and
the machine at the other end has no qualms about it.  Let's say you've got
a half-dozen Ethernet-connected transciever sitting in a shack atop a hill
2 miles away from your house.  Connect all the rigs to a hub.  You take
your PC, connect a wireless LAN interface to it, point an antenna at the
shack, and install a similar system in the shack, connect it to your shack
hub, and now your PC can operate ALL the equipment, as well as send sound
out your PC's speakers, and send your voice and keying commands to the rig.

Nobody's done it yet, but it will happen.  It is the future.

DK  :-)
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73's from KW0D Dave in LeClaire, Iowa
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