Hans … you nailed it with your comment:
“No We all have to do it our own way and let the other do it their way,BUT
dxcc is gone for ever as an important award.”
I don’t even update my DXCC totals anymore as it no longer represents an
accomplishment that I can share and enjoy with fellow operators. I used to
compete on Topband with fellow hams and anxiously await the DXCC annual
listings to see where we stood. No longer.
I can’t control the behaviors of the W1 that remote through a W7 station
for a 9M2 Topband Q.
I can’t control an awards program that gives the FT8 op the same credit for
DX Q where the computer does the heavy lifting, as I get working them on CW
using what little remains between my ears.
I can’t control the ethical practices of a Ukrainian station I heard
working multiple Portland Oregon stations on 6M with a signal 20/S9.
But, as you so correctly point out, we must do it our way ..
I moved from Washington State (where my current DXCC, 9BDXCC and 200 5BWAZ
was achieved) to Las Vegas. I am sharing a private remote station …my
equipment … my antennas, in southern Utah. I could begin adding to my DXCC
Topband totals but would that meet my ‘accomplishment’ needs? The
propagation difference between the two QTHs is profound! I elected to not
add anymore to my existing DXCC record, and start anew. I didn’t need to.
Actually, I decided to drop DXCC altogether because it means nothing
without a plethora of footnotes, and just enjoy those great Topband
contacts when they occur.
It’s a pity …I think there could have been leadership by the awards folks
to provide a space for everyone to enjoy their angle of the hobby.
Unfortunately, that leadership was lacking. As someone in an earlier thread
noted, ‘the train has left the station’.
Dennis, K7FL
Currently in Lacoste France listening on his remote in Utah 😎😎😎
On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 8:11 PM Hans Hjelmström <sm6cvx@hjelmstrom.se> wrote:
> Well,
>
> Topband and 6 meters is killed by FT 8 anyway.
>
> Hams seems not to care,,,,there is not a single sound on qrg,BUT Hams
> seems to
> be happy to push a finger and let the computer make a so called qso for
> them.
>
> Also the RIB business is as crazy. Having a station on a place,and
> operators all over
> the globe. Rather easy to handle a pile-up with a station in Pacific and
> sitting operating that in
> Finland.
>
> No We all have to do it our own way and let the other do it their way,BUT
> dxcc is gone
> for ever as an important award.
>
> 73 Hans SM6CVX
>
>
> > 5 feb 2024 kl. 19:48 skrev David Olean <k1whs@metrocast.net>:
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > The horse has left the barn. I have lost a bit of enthusiasm ever since
> Maine became a hotspot for 160M into Europe a number of years ago. There
> are so many "killer" remote stations in the state now. There is no way I
> can really compete against it and it is very dis heartening to hear the W7s
> using a Maine station and not signing as portable. I have heard all the
> same stuff you were hearing this morning. There is really nothing you or I
> can do about it. Some follow the rules, and some will bend them severely.
> As for radio awards, W6PO commented years ago...."It is just like
> collecting matchbook covers". I set my own internal goals.
> >
> > Dave K1WHS
> >
> > On 2/5/2024 11:57 AM, Steve Harrison wrote:
> >> This growing practice of hiring a remote in another call area far from
> >> your own QTH, then working wild and exotic DX wile preventing deserving
> >> locals operating from their home stations from working same DX, is
> >> abominable and just plain unethical. I lost what respect I had for a
> >> couple people I heard work 9M2AX this morning when I heard them do that.
> >> I heard another guy do that last week that I've only just barely heard
> >> on 160 in the past across the country; he was at least two hours beyond
> >> his own sunrise, so obviously hiring a remote, probably that big one up
> >> near Carson City, Nevada, same station these two guys this morning were
> >> probably using. The week before last, there was another east coaster, at
> >> least 2-1/2 hours past his sunrise, who did the same thing at, most
> >> likely, the same station. I bet the owner of the station is advertising
> >> it as "WORK 9M2AX on 160 from here!!! Only $XXX for a half hour!!".
> >>
> >> I hope these guys are putting an asterisk on their 9M2 QSL cards to
> >> indicate they didn't work Ross from home; but I won't hold my breath
> >> that they do.
> >>
> >> Steve, K0XP
> >>
> >>
> >>
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