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Re: [TowerTalk] Force12

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Force12
From: Barry <w2up3@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:44:16 +0000
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The manuals don't help much, anyway.  Instructions are vague and the 
pictures are really pitiful - they look like copies of copies of 
copies.  Hopefully the new owner(s) will use these comments constructively.
Barry W2UP

Jim Walker wrote:
>  
> I've never had a problem obtaining manuals from any equipment/antenna other
> than Force12.
>
>  I once purchased a C4XL from a ham who had misplaced the instruction
> manual.  Called Force12 and was told, we don't "give" our manuals out for
> free, but they are for sale for $25.  I was made to feel as if I was being
> held hostage and they were using the sale of their manual as another source
> of revenue.  It wasn't that they "wouldn't" provide me with a manual, they
> wanted to "sell" me a manual.   If my intent was to "copy" their design and
> build an antenna out of my scrape aluminum, I wouldn't hesitate to purchase
> the manual for $25 knowing how much I would be saving.  I went back to the
> previous owner and told him to look harder for the manual.  Luckily, he
> found it a couple days later.
>
> I think its unreasonable for any manufacturer to hold users who wish to use
> their product hostage by charging them for information they could readily
> make available for downloading.  No costs involved.  Just a few bytes of
> storage.
>
> If it is Force12's goal to keep hams from copying their designs, therefore
> not posting manuals on their website, they are punishing the masses to keep
> a scant few from copying their design.    Let's face it, if a ham wants to
> copy a design and build their own antenna, they will find the information
> somewhere.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Doug Renwick
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 7:50 AM
> To: 'Dan Hearn'; TowerTalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Force12
>
> So we have some 'unreasonable' antenna manufactures like Hy-Gain, CushCraft,
> and Spiderbeam who do make their manuals available.  What about defunct
> manufacturers like Wilson or KLM?  What about antennas that are no longer
> made like the Hy-Quad 244?  Think about it.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Doug
>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Force12
>
> It is unreasonable to expect a company to make public the complete details
> of their designs. I am amazed that some hams have the gall to ask other hams
> to copy the info on their antennas and send it to them.
> 'snip'
> Just my opinion.
>
> 73, Dan, N5AR
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>
> Before I buy anything, I download the manual.  After reading the manual, I
> often decide not to buy.  If there is no manual to download, I don't buy it.
>
> Rick N6RK
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Barry Kutner, W2UP             Newtown, PA   

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