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Re: [TowerTalk] RFI WITH MY NEIGHBOR...HELP!

To: "Tower" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] RFI WITH MY NEIGHBOR...HELP!
From: "Jim Hargrave" <w5ifp@gvtc.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:39:57 -0000
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Jim Brown wrote:

   >You would be barking up the wrong tree!  This is not a
   >shielding problem, it
   >is likely to be a pin 1 problem. One or more cables in the
   >neighbor's system

Jim,

I may be barking up the wrong tree, however let me explain my reasoning. If
you would re-read Toni's original post,

.I Quote:
  >I narrowed it down to
   >there jumpers from the tv to the dvd which are not
   >shielded.

Toni stated that he had isolated the problem to the Un-shielded cables
between the DVD player and the TV. I was addressing that statement.

I agree with your statement that Speaker cables are a real source of
interference, However Toni did not reveal that an amplifier or external
speakers were in use. That should not be a problem with built in speakers
inside the TV.


   * 73's Jim W5IFP *


   >-----Original Message-----
   >From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
   >[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Jim Brown
   >Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:04 PM
   >To: Tower
   >Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] RFI WITH MY NEIGHBOR...HELP!
   >
   >
   >The On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:39:43 -0000, Jim Hargrave wrote:
   >
   >>Tony,
   >
   >>I would first replace the DVD cable with one that each line
   >has individual
   >>shields. You might want to go with individual cables. Normally
   >single cables
   >>are shielded. If you have a three wire Siamese cable, I'm
   >surprised it would
   >>not be shielded.
   >
   >You would be barking up the wrong tree!  This is not a
   >shielding problem, it
   >is likely to be a pin 1 problem. One or more cables in the
   >neighbor's system
   >is acting as a receive antenna and coupling your RF into some
   >part of the
   >audio system that is detecting it. The most practical solution
   >is usually to
   >block the antenna current with a common mode choke, or to
   >divert it away from
   >the entertainment system.
   >
   >The other VERY common coupling mode is the loudspeaker wiring,
   >which couples
   >RF into the output stage. All output stages use negative
   >feedback to reduce
   >distortion and noise. Any RF present on the output wiring is
   >coupled by that
   >feedback network back to the input, where it is detected. This
   >coupling can
   >also be fixed with a common mode choke. It can also usually be fixed by
   >replacing parallel wire speaker cable (glorified zip cord) with
   >twisted pair.
   >
   >See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf for more detailed
   >explanation and
   >advice on this.
   >
   >73,
   >
   >Jim Brown K9YC
   >
   >
   >
   >
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