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Re: [TowerTalk] S21 to Rp & Cp - Equivalent Circuit

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] S21 to Rp & Cp - Equivalent Circuit
From: jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:16:58 -0800
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On 1/12/18 7:57 AM, Steve Hunt wrote:
Yes!!!! - S11 Magnitude and Phase are quite different from S21 Magnitude and Phase.

If you are interested, here's how I derive the choke's complex impedance from S21 Magnitude and Phase:
http://www.karinya.net/g3txq/chokes/s21.pdf



The conversion of Mag/Phase to complex values is the same, but the conversion of the measurement to Z is different...

in the 1 port measurement, the unknown is in series with the 50 ohm impedance of the source, so you're looking at the ratio of the voltage/current across the Z compared to the voltage/current across the series combination (with some math to turn it into gamma/S11)

In the 2 port measurement, the unknown is between the ports, so you're looking at the voltage/current across the port 2 load, compared with the voltage/current at the port 1 source (with some math to turn it into S21)

Steve's website has the equations.

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