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Re: [TowerTalk] Poly rod, Fiber glass rod, Fiber Protrusion rod tension?

To: CEPitts <cpitts@ec.rr.com>, "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Poly rod, Fiber glass rod, Fiber Protrusion rod tension?
From: Wayne Kline <w3ea@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2018 02:25:47 +0000
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Ed,



I had a 150 ft. or R65  with guy levels of 45/95/140  using  Poly Rod guys with 
1 by 7     5/16” tail end to the I beam raised guy anchors.

With a  pre load of 10% of the tinsel strength   and pre loaded to 1100 lb on a 
5/8 X 16”  Eye jaw turnbuckles.





Wayne W3EA



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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 8:44:58 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Poly rod, Fiber glass rod, Fiber Protrusion rod tension?

Question: For those that have used what is commonly referred to
depending on discussion “poly rod”, “fiber glass rod”, “Fiber protrusion
rod”, etc. in lieu of ehs or phillystran what is the recommended tension
of said rod for 5/16” rod?

I have done quite amount of research both on line and contacting
manufacturers and have found nothing that I can use for a reference or
make any sense due to the engineering specs the manufacturers provide me.

I am not an engineer and cannot figure out what the recommendation would be.

I have my current tower project spec’d on ROHN 55G 130 mph at 130 feet
100 % guying (130 feet) and it calls for the lower guys if using EHS
spec ¼” at 665 lbs tension per guy and 5/16” at 1120 lbs tension per guy
for the upper guys. (3 sets of guys, the two lower ¼”, the final upper
at 5/16”)

If I am correct if I was using phillystran the tension would be the same
based on the same equivalency of that material used to the EHS guy specs.

Since I am using this 5/16” “rod" on all three guy levels I want to make
sure I do not under or over tension.

Rod provided was second hand (no issues, brand new) and was a great
deal! I am all set to go up with tower but want to get this right before
proceeding further. I have Loos gauges and Dynaometer at my disposal
along with everything to get this project up as described above. Hope to
get going when I get back from Dayton. From what I have determined so
far it is best to tension everything up of course beginning with bottom
set of guys to roughly 250 lbs + or -, get plumb and go from there with
turnbuckle adjustment and get somewhere in the ball park of a safe and
secure tension on final product as we go up to the final set of guys
(#3) at 130 feet. 250 lbs is far off from 665 and 1120 but because of
the material possibly those tension specs are not in the ball park of
EHS or Phillystran? What say the group with any knowledge of using this
type of guy material? When I get back from Dayton I am working on
getting the tower up with a successful and safe out come? Thanks in
advance , if you see me at the Crowne or the venue stop and say hi! 73!
Ed K5OF
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