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Re: [TowerTalk] Mast slippage

To: Les Brown <lesbrown@sympatico.ca>, "'towertalk@contesting.com'" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Mast slippage
From: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 21:41:53 -0700
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I looked at the 71D picture at Array Solutions. Not impressed with the bent up clamps. Grade 8 bolts can apply 2x the force of the stock SS if torqued to spec, the easiest thing to try. Torque the bolts with a torque wrench, wait a day and re-torque. I've had SS bolts take an initial stretch, a known property. One project I worked on required torquing the grade 9 bolts 3 times and temperature cycling the joint in between. Quite amazing the change each cycle.

Or the 71D ears may bend around more. Measure the separation top and bottom to check for that with what you have done so far.

A way to improve the existing bracket is bracing welded at least across the top, say 5/16 thick x 3" with a V cutout. Even better if a second one was cut to fit mid height and welded in. Or buy better one if it exists.

The problem with pins is it is very difficult to get a round straight thru hole of correct diameter in both parts by hand, especially on alloy steel tube. So the mast will still work back and forth, elongating the hole and wearing the bolt. The back and forth is hard on the rotator. Your mast will still be "slipping slightly".

If the pin is your choice, I'd try a pilot point drill (Dewalt) of the diameter that just fits the bracket hole. It has a center drill built in and they are excellent quality steel. You might go thru with a couple of these. If they don't hack it a Co/M42 drill will have a good start hole. You will need lots of thrust force and endurance and coolant. Water in a spray bottle is better than oil, WD40 is easy and good too, a helper is necessary to have continuous application. The mast material cert can tell you what you have and the possible hardness range is greater than 2:1 Hrc. (there are 6 spec 4140 standards). Hand drilling at the hardest level is doubtful.

A punch might provide a drill start on round alloy steel tube for maybe a 1/16" drill but how would you get it centered? It is possible to step up in a few steps to reduce the thrust needed but by hand it's unlikely to preserve the position.

Drill from both sides, don't attempt to drill thru from one side.

There is no way you want to mess with a MagDrill (I own 2) on a tower and there is nothing for the magnet to clamp to.

Good luck, be safe,

Grant KZ1W


On 7/28/2020 16:00, Les Brown wrote:
I have 2 large Yagis attached to a 3 inch OD ?? inch wall thickness Chromoly
mast running down the tower to a ProSisTel PST-71D. On a windy day, I hear
creaking sounds from the tower. The mast is slipping slightly in the rotator
mast bracket. I???ve already tried to tighten the 6 bolts, but it still slips.
I don???t want to tighten them to the point where they might snap. I???m
thinking that what I need to do is to go up the tower, drill a hole through
the mast (the rotator mast bracket already has holes), and pin the mast and
bracket. I understand that it???s not easy drilling through Chromoly pipe, so
before I try this, I thought I would ask if any of you have any other
suggestions.

73, Les VE3NNT

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