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Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: [wwdxc] Antenna Permit Query

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Fwd: [wwdxc] Antenna Permit Query
From: Mac <libbysales@austin.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 21:48:26 -0600
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You can "play" with this situation or just cut to the chase...

call email get in touch with Fred Hopengarten k1vf  arrl director, but more ?   author of several Zoning and city conflicts each published by arrl if you have differences with arrl,  get over it.. use Fred.. you can fiddle fart around trying to save some money or use "the local Guy"  but that's all you're gonna do is fiddle around ..  Fred has so damn much experience and is the consummate professional at this, he visits with the city attorney on this if the city atty has even half a brain, fred's logic and experience walks the city smuck thru it all,  gives him/her good sound reasoning and support for them to advise the building dept or zoning/and or council.. they can all take the advice keep their integrity and walk away knowing they are meeting the minimum intent of PRB-1 esp if it has been codified by the Governor/State..

As i mentioned if your objective is to play with it and suffer the angst frustration and all the other crap that goes along with it, do it the path your own, you wanna win and be done with it, then call him...

mac/mc  w5mc

On 11/3/2020 11:04 AM, jcowens1@comcast.net wrote:
     ---------- Original Message ----------
     From: Mike K7PI <bipi@comcast.net>
     To: wwdxc@groups.io
     Date: 11/03/2020 8:25 AM
     Subject: [wwdxc] Antenna Permit Query



     Hello All,


     The vice chair of our local emergency communications group here on Mercer 
Island is Pat Hackett, K7PTH. Pat works closely with our city police, fire, and 
local government to ensure we have trained radio operators and procedures that 
will effectively provide crucial communications in the event of a major 
disaster.  While our local communications are VHF/UHF we also depend on HF for 
off-island and inter-state communications.


     Pat has recently upgraded to a General Class license and John Banbury 
(AG7N) and myself have been helping her plan a low profile but effective HF 
antenna installation. She has chosen a US Towers ALM31 crank up mast with a 2 
element STEPPIR 6-40m yagi. The maximum height of the mast is 31 feet and 
lowered it is less than 8 feet. The mast with payload is rated at 65 MPH steady 
wind speed with an 85 MPH 3-second gust. Payload is rated at 8 sq-ft and 50 lbs 
weight. The 2 ele STEPPIR she plans on using has a wind load rating of 6 sq-ft 
and weighs in less than 50 lbs including the chosen rotator.


     Pat applied for a Mercer Island building permit to erect the mast providing all of 
the design calculations for the mast installations. The city has come back stating that 
the mast is an "auxiliary structure" and as such must have maximum height 
restriction of 17 feet and design wind speed of 110 MPH. After supplying the city with a 
copy of PRB-1 they have relaxed the height requirement but still require the 110 MPH 
design wind speed. The lowered mast will be installed on the North side of Pat's house 
and will be completely blocked from our SW storm wind direction. Furthermore, if the mast 
were to fail for any reason, it would land well within the footprint of her property 
boundaries. All utilities are buried so that also is no issue.


     So, we are in the process of gathering information to help push this 
permit through the city's zoning department. It appears that the city would 
like to approve the permit but they need some way of justifying relaxing the 
requirements for the category classification of the mast. To that end, Pat is 
in the process of reaching out to several lawyers with related 
tower/antenna/zoning experience. In addition, I am reaching out to our WWDXC 
members who have either obtained a permit or found that no permit was required 
for their tower installation and to briefly supply the following information:


     1. Your callsign.

     2. Your local zoning jurisdiction.

     3. Permit required?

     4. A brief description of your installation, i.e., height, antennas

     5. How the tower/antenna was characterized, i.e., structure, antenna, 
other?

     6. Design wind speed requirement.

     7. Any relaxation of requirements due to site specific considerations.

     8. Any links to local zoning requirements related to antenna permitting 
(if possible).

     9. Any other helpful comments you might have.


     Thank you for reading this lengthy email and we appreciate any information 
received.


     73 de Mike

     K7PI

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