| I recall back maybe 20 years ago that PVRC members put together a group 
buy of fiberglas guy rod from the manufacturer.  Instead of risking used 
Phillystran, or paying $2.05 a foot from DXEngineering, for such a  
major project you might get together with others and explore doing a 
bulk purchase from the manufacturer.  The stuff might be available in 
1000-foot rolls for a considerably more reasonable price. 
73, Pete N4ZR
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On 9/10/2021 11:13 AM, Grant Saviers wrote:
 Not much hurts the Kevlar core other than UV, crushing, and very sharp 
bends.
There is "original" Phillystran that can't be terminated with grips as 
the cover does not adhere to the core.  I used 25K# reclaimed 
"original" for my tower using potted terminations, see NCJ 11/2014. 
Guy grips IMO are a bad termination for any but the smallest Philly.
You could also get a pull test done on a sample guy. Probably a good 
idea for "a couple of 160ft towers."  Many commercial rigging 
suppliers have the pull test beds to way beyond 6700#. 
Grant KZ1W
On 9/10/2021 03:51, Keith Dutson wrote:
 
  Anyone know if used Phillystran is still good.
Years ago I bought some tower sections from a ham who took down 
several Rohn 55G towers.  The fellow handling the sale had a big pile 
of guy lines used for the towers.  The pile was all 6700 pound 
Phillystran, just as they were installed, with thimbles and short 
Rohn EHS guys attached to each end.  I bought the whole pile for a 
good price.  I am thinking of using them to put up a couple of 160 
foot towers.    On Friday, September 10, 2021, 04:59:49 AM CDT, 
Mpridesti via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com> wrote:
    While on a contest DXpedition to D4C, I saw that station was 
using what looked to be philly but was actually material used to hold 
very long covers used in farming (like supporting cheese cloth over 
large fields in growing tobacco in CT). Amazingly strong and D4C with 
all their trade winds, holds towers without issue. Recall it was 
nearly a 1/2 inch OD. 
Perhaps research in the agricultural areas?
May have come from Italy.  Was told it was very inexpensive.
Regards,
Mark, K1RX
 On Sep 10, 2021, at 5:16 AM, Jon Zaimes via TowerTalk 
<towertalk@contesting.com> wrote:
Similar material is used in marine industry, but like everything 
else for a boat it is likely pricier than DXE. 
73/Jon AA1K
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On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 6:37 PM, Gary Johnson 
<gwj@wb9jps.com> wrote: 
Besides DXE, I haven’t found any other suppliers for Phillystran. 
Texas Towers doesn’t list it anymore either. Thought it would be 
nice to shop around before buying a mile of it. Any hints? 
Gary NA6O
gwj@wb9jps.com
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