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Re: [TowerTalk] 160M Antenna puzzlement

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 160M Antenna puzzlement
From: Wes <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2021 13:09:38 -0700
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He already has the feedpoint Z. "Measuring the SWR and R/X at the base of the antenna with my Rig Experts AA-55 Zoom,"

If he removes the loading inductance and trims the wire for -j25 (and the R stays around 30) then a shunt inductor of 5.3 uH will give a near perfect match at 1820 kHs.

Wes  N7WS

On 12/19/2021 12:50 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 12/19/2021 10:55 AM, Jeff Blaine wrote:
For 160 something around 8+ turns & type-31 are the "right" rule of thumb answers.

Based on my research, a lot more turns. http://k9yc.com/2018Cookbook.pdf

Pete has received lots of good advice in this thread. I'll add this. Base loading is a bad thing, because it places inductance at the point in the antenna that carries the most current, and should be doing the radiating. Better to remember that SWR is NOT a measure of antenna performance, that as Jeff has noted, feedline loss is pretty low on 160M, and that what matters for moderate values of SWR most is whether you amp can put power into it with the help of a tuner. And if practical, I'd replace that length of RG8X with something the size of RG8. OTOH, doubling the number of radials, realizing that length of on-ground radials is not critical, would probably help TX signal more than replacing that coax, and would change the feedpoint Z a bit.

While adding horizontal length is technically a great idea, sometimes that isn't practical. I like Jeff's suggestion of an L-network at the feedpoint, but the design requires either a lot of cut and try, or a sweep of the feedpoint Z with a good vector analyzer whose data can be ported to design software like SimSmith. I'll bet that Pete has neighbors who can do that. And if Pete can send me a suitable sweep, I'd be happy to do a design.

73, Jim K9YC


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