So far the groups.io site doesn't seem to be getting much traction -
when I checked yesterday the most recent post was a week ago. I joined
anyway - doesn't seem to be much effort involved. I agree with the view
that contesting.com is no longer the optimum host for any list that
could make good use of more modern features such as graphics. I, for
one, would be happy to contribute financially if needed.
73, Pete N4ZR
On 4/16/2024 5:16 PM, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
I think it is called progress. Groups.io allows for file sharing,
photos, a much more friendly user interface for trying to search the
group, I could go on. Many of the old mailman reflectors moved to
groups.io when it was totally free. Other lists got created because
of conflict with list owners or moderators etc. We live in a Windows
graphical environment. We put MS-DOS to bed a long time ago.
It is unfortunate that this group was not migrated to IO when it
easily could have and the transition would have been nearly seamless.
People generally use what they like. Dumbing down? They are just
choices. I prefer to be able to see attachments of photos and have
documents saved on the list. The SteppIR group hosts many different
guides and help documents for troubleshooting and much much more.
When it comes to support type questions I prefer to see pretty pictures.
I would agree with the comment that multiple lists dilute the
information. I don't think anyone needs to justify why other groups
exist. There are multiple groups on IO, FB, contesting.com etc. It
is unfortunate that most of the data here on these types of lists are
not searched by google etc. So much valuable information is archived
away.
Let me get back to my 12 inch B&W TV.
W0MU
On 4/15/2024 9:03 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
Unfortunately, in the last 30 years amateurs (like the rest of society)
have become too lazy to express themselves in text mode. They simply
must have their html mail with all of the screen captures, pictures,
graphic decorations, etc.
Thus we have seen the proliferation of alternates to towertalk, amps,
elecraft, etc. and a wholesale relocation of many other old time lists
to web based services like groups.io and google groups. This "dumbing
down" has brought two problems ... the information is now spread into
multiple locations (making it harder to find for those who bother to
look instead of lazily asking the same question for the n-hundredth
time) and opened the average person to significantly more security
threats hidden in the html and image codes.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On 4/15/2024 10:15 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
It strikes me as severely counterproductive to have two Towertalk
reflectors. I have been on towertalk@contesting.com for almost 30
years, and find its archives invaluable.
73, Pete N4ZR
On 4/15/2024 1:50 AM, Michael Tope wrote:
Norm,
The archive for Towertalk@contesting.com is here:
http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/towertalk/
73, Mike W4EF.............
On 4/14/2024 10:28 PM, NPAlex wrote:
There appears to be two different 'Tower Talk' reflectors. The
one I have directed this email to, and the other is
TowerTalk@group.io
How does one find message history in the TowerTalk@contesting? It
is straight forward in the group.io
Norm W4QN
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