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Re: [CQ-Contest] Dayton and the forum issues

To: "Scott Robbins" <w4pa@yahoo.com>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dayton and the forum issues
From: "Mark Steven Williams" <k9gx@n4gn.com>
Reply-to: Mark Steven Williams <K9GX@N4GN.COM>
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 03:08:07 +0100
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The Hamvention should consider Louisville, KY. The Kentucky Fair and 
Exposition Center offers something like 5 million square feet of  sparkling 
clean exposition area, meeting rooms, banquet facilities and parking for 
something like 25,000 vehicles less than a mile from Louisville 
International Airport.

KFEC is home to the Mid America Truck show (the Dayton Hamvention of 
industry trade shows...I engineered a remote broadcast for Sirius Satellite 
radio there this Spring), the North American Livestock Exposition and the 
Louisville Cardinal basketball team.

A little 'ol ham radio convention for 25,000 HT jockies? a drop in the 
bucket...you could schedule Hamvention here in one corner of the South Wing 
and have plenty of room left for Billy Bob's Gun & Knife show, Aunt Bee's 
Quilting convention and the AKC All breed dog show on the same weekend and 
have room for a Trekkie convention.

Of course the major challenge would be having the Hamvention organizing 
committees pulling together an event from a distance.

Honestly, the facilities at KFEC put HARA to shame, hell the local Greyhound 
bus terminal puts HARA to shame.

Criteria should be: midwest region location, accessible by air, close 
proximity to major interstates and reasonably vital, active metropolitan 
area with some alternate destinations, decent restaurants and attractions. 
KFEC is about 5 miles from Churchill Downs, there's a triple A ball park 
downtown, etc, etc and a Waffle House within 3 miles.

Will it happen? Naaaahhhh.

Just my 2 cents worth.


Mark, K9GX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Robbins" <w4pa@yahoo.com>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:42 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton and the forum issues

>>>If the organizers really do care about keeping attendance up and
> bucks flowing from contesters' and DXers' pockets into the vendors'
> pockets, maybe they need to be a little more accommodating in the
> assignment of meeting rooms next year.<<
> At root of this whole discussion is really this:  Dayton Hamvention
> needs to ditch Hara Arena and move this national event to a different
> venue, in a different city.  Major shows like Comdex and NAMM change
> cities every so often because it keeps the show fresh and gives people
> another reason to continue to attend each year.
> Each year, with rare exception, we see the post-Dayton handwringing
> over show attendance dropping, sales flattening, venue issues,
> organization issues - and yet THE thing that would revitalize the show
> is never considered - namely getting the show into a different venue
> every third or fourth year, a venue that can or will accomodate the
> entire needs of the show, the vendors, and the attendees.
> What kind of national trade show (and that's what Dayton is, a full
> blown national trade show for amateur radio) blows the organization of
> the event to the point where forums of strong interest to the community
> involved have to be moved to an off-site hotel ballroom to accomodate
> the necessary crowd?  That's absolutely pathetic.
> Scott Robbins W4PA
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