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Re: [CQ-Contest] Dayton and the forum issues

To: Mark Steven Williams <K9GX@N4GN.COM>,"Tim Totten, N4GN" <dcdxa@n4gn.com>, kcglist@n4gn.com,cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Dayton and the forum issues
From: "N4XM Paul D. Schrader" <n4xm@iglou.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 11:57:08 -0400
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Will it happen?

The first Louisville Ham Kenvention was held in Louisville KY at the
Fairgrounds (KFEC) with yours truly as chairman in 1966.  It featured an
all indoor
flea market, forums, and KY Senator Morton as the banquet speaker.
(Good thing, it rained all day.)

The Kenvention continued for 3 more years at excellent local locations.
The last one (1969) included the First Signal One CX7 to go public as
the Grand Prize and the FIRST public showing of the NASA moon landing film.

How's that Mark?


Paul  N4XM

At 03:08 AM 6/9/2005 +0100, you wrote:
>The Hamvention should consider Louisville, KY. The Kentucky Fair and 
>Exposition Center offers something like 5 million square feet of  sparkling 
>clean exposition area, meeting rooms, banquet facilities and parking for 
>something like 25,000 vehicles less than a mile from Louisville 
>International Airport.
>KFEC is home to the Mid America Truck show (the Dayton Hamvention of 
>industry trade shows...I engineered a remote broadcast for Sirius Satellite 
>radio there this Spring), the North American Livestock Exposition and the 
>Louisville Cardinal basketball team.
>A little 'ol ham radio convention for 25,000 HT jockies? a drop in the 
>bucket...you could schedule Hamvention here in one corner of the South Wing 
>and have plenty of room left for Billy Bob's Gun & Knife show, Aunt Bee's 
>Quilting convention and the AKC All breed dog show on the same weekend and 
>have room for a Trekkie convention.
>Of course the major challenge would be having the Hamvention organizing 
>committees pulling together an event from a distance.
>Honestly, the facilities at KFEC put HARA to shame, hell the local Greyhound 
>bus terminal puts HARA to shame.
>Criteria should be: midwest region location, accessible by air, close 
>proximity to major interstates and reasonably vital, active metropolitan 
>area with some alternate destinations, decent restaurants and attractions. 
>KFEC is about 5 miles from Churchill Downs, there's a triple A ball park 
>downtown, etc, etc and a Waffle House within 3 miles.
>Will it happen? Naaaahhhh.
>Just my 2 cents worth.
>Mark, K9GX
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Scott Robbins" <w4pa@yahoo.com>
>To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:42 PM
>Subject: [CQ-Contest] Dayton and the forum issues
>>>>If the organizers really do care about keeping attendance up and
>> bucks flowing from contesters' and DXers' pockets into the vendors'
>> pockets, maybe they need to be a little more accommodating in the
>> assignment of meeting rooms next year.<<
>> At root of this whole discussion is really this:  Dayton Hamvention
>> needs to ditch Hara Arena and move this national event to a different
>> venue, in a different city.  Major shows like Comdex and NAMM change
>> cities every so often because it keeps the show fresh and gives people
>> another reason to continue to attend each year.
>> Each year, with rare exception, we see the post-Dayton handwringing
>> over show attendance dropping, sales flattening, venue issues,
>> organization issues - and yet THE thing that would revitalize the show
>> is never considered - namely getting the show into a different venue
>> every third or fourth year, a venue that can or will accomodate the
>> entire needs of the show, the vendors, and the attendees.
>> What kind of national trade show (and that's what Dayton is, a full
>> blown national trade show for amateur radio) blows the organization of
>> the event to the point where forums of strong interest to the community
>> involved have to be moved to an off-site hotel ballroom to accomodate
>> the necessary crowd?  That's absolutely pathetic.
>> Scott Robbins W4PA
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