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Re: [CQ-Contest] Single Op/Get Scores Assisted

To: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Single Op/Get Scores Assisted
From: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:44:38 -0600
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I did see what you posted.  That is not what I am talking about.  What you did 
was click on spots and work them - with some filtering but nothing new.

I've never tried it, but what does Skimmer or some other code reader do if you 
have it on your CQ frequency with a roaring pile-up (or not) and have it copy 
call signs (not ones calling CQ but all call signs)?  Can it copy call signs or 
not? (I don't know the answer).  If it can copy, can those call signs be bumped 
against a master data base?  YES.  Can those call signs be filtered by the MDB 
and stacked in a list to run through, one after the other YES.  Could they be 
prioritized based on whether they were needed as multipliers YES.  Would this 
be a step toward near total automation of a run station?  YES  If that can be 
perfected and work as well or better than the best operators, does it change 
the game? (Absolutely)  for the better?  Matter of opinion.

Oh, don't get me wrong.  Although I fought tooth and nail against allowing 
Skimmer, I've learned to love it. Still glad, for now, a single operator 
category still exists where the operator has to actually tune a radio dial to 
find the stations he works.  That was in question at one time.  I love the RBN, 
too.  Great tool for comparing antennas and your signal versus someone else.  

Just take me one little baby step at a time to avoid shock.  I'm sure I'll love 
having an automated run station in a few years.  I will, however, draw the line 
when we take radios and antennas out of the game and just make it a computer 
game on the Internet.  EI5DI may need to be resuscitated.

73...Stan, K5GO

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com> wrote:

> Stan, did you see my CQ-C post on Extreme S&P?  It is exactly what you're 
> describing, except that it draws from a subset of networked Skimmers.
> Also, N1MM Logger permits withholding your band totals from the scoreboard, 
> and I'd imagine top competitors would want to do just that.  You could still 
> see how your overall rate compares to N3RS - could even be motivating.
>  73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at 
> http://reversebeacon.net, 
> blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
> For spots, please go to your favorite 
> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
> On 2/24/2013 6:51 AM, Stan Stockton wrote:
>> We posted our score to the RU site in the last contest for the first time 
>> and, although hesitant about doing that, I'll admit it was fun and 
>> entertaining.  Can't say I would have felt exactly the same if N3RS had been 
>> posting his score while trouncing us by about 8%.
>> I assume, but am not sure, that the only reason for using these sites is so 
>> you can look to see how you are doing compared to the competition. I am not 
>> sure about this but It makes sense then, to me, that single ops who are 
>> posting their scores are looking at that site - otherwise why post (for 
>> everyone else's entertainment?  
>> It also makes sense that if you are looking at the site that you see others 
>> who are posting their scores and since you can see where the QSOs are 
>> racking up you know when and what band the other stations are running.  
>> Although not a HUGE problem at the moment with the number of stations 
>> posting to these sites, it occurred to me that as it grows and even being 
>> suggested by NQ4I that it be required (probably not going to happen) that 
>> single op unassisted entrants are actually assisted since they can know when 
>> and what band a juicy multiplier they need is running.
>> Take just a little bite at a time and 10 years from now it could become a 
>> scheduling process where the stations are programmed to jump around the band 
>> working everyone with computer interfaces.  If there are new participants 
>> they will like it all in the name of technological advancement and the old 
>> guys will still be complaining.  
>> Next little bite, in my estimation, is getting Skimmer to copy and stack the 
>> call signs in a pile up to be picked off one after the other.  Surely this 
>> has been tried?  Just saying...
>> 73...Stan, K5GO
>> Sent from my iPad
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